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In reply to @MDB

Yeah, $400 for two is a reasonable estimate. There are considerably more professional services involved with fitting them than, say, a partner mic. Tough sell. The correct user is probably someone who wants that slight boost in noisy situations and/or wants superior streaming quality. And someone who can get used to the loud click.

In reply to @MDB

@MDB said:

To me the issue is the firmware and Paradise and KS10 clearly have different firmware since they require different apps.

When I connect Target to my P90Rs the Active Vents are available for selection. This is exactly since the Active Vents were announced.
Maybe a KS10 DIYer could give this a try?
(Accoustic Parameters → Receiver/AV).
Then we will finally know…

In reply to @Neville

Did I read correctly they only expect the activevent receivers to last 6 mo? Would this become like a subscription plan (Lyric?) vs outright purchase? I’m hoping to get activevent in may/june with the contract change, like I got the Roger On in December.

WH

No, just that they only have a 6 month warranty. I expect that this isn’t because Phonak expects them to break down in 6 months, but rather because they DON’T expect them to break down in 6 months. In other words, they tested out to 6 months and it all seemed fine and they stopped there. I would guess that the receiver can probably last longer, but good care and cleaning is going to be more critical for this receiver and like other receivers how long they last will probably vary considerably from individual to individual.

The titanium tips have a longer warranty, so you wouldn’t be replacing both each time.

In reply to @WhiteHat

Re: the ActiveVents “being on the contract”, are you referring to Costco or a private audiologist you go to? Thanks! You also mention the Roger ON being included “with the contract change, like I got the Roger On in December.” I am also interested in getting the Roger ON microphone, but understood that Costco does not sell it. Did your (private?) audiologist provide you with the Roger ON under your dispensing/fitting contract, or was it through Costco?

Like many here, I am a patient. The VA updates their contracts with the suppliers twice a year. Does that help?

WH

Cool. So the only barriers are getting the receivers and titanium slim tips.

Got word from my audiologist this morning that activevent is available to order, just out of stock. So, not a contract issue, just stock on the shelf issue. She has ordered them, and we’ll use slimtips for initial fit. If the activevents work out, then we’ll investigate more permanent molds. Yay!

WH

So it is possible to use them with slim tips?
Does anyone know, why Phonak says we need titanium molds?
Its kind of hard to come by the titanium molds.
The Active Vents can be ordered online.

As I’ve mentioned before, my audiologist has to order through the system. Until it is on the contract, we have no access. It appears they became available in November. I hadn’t heard about the ability to use slimtips. But she had a training with the Phonak rep and I guess you can?

WH

In reply to @sterei

“Slim Tips” made of titanium is what is needed. These are custom molds. I believe some other manufacturer may call one of it’s domes a slim tip, but they are not the same. Here’s a link to the order form which may shed some light. https://www.phonakpro.com/content/dam/phonakpro/gc_ca/en/resources/Forms/Custom%20Earpiece%20Order%20Form.pdf22

This is new to my audiologist (and everything is new to me) so I guess we’ll make our way through somehow.

WH

Probably. Any custom mold should be able to seal as well as double domes. I think the issue would be how well it stays in place. I’m unclear what kind of retaining options there are. I don’t think a canal lock is an option.

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