Two Months With Lumity 90 after 3 Years With Marvel 90

@kcsummerkc said:

If so your opinion about the Lumity isn’t based in any way about the Paradise 90?

No, I just skipped right from 3 years of Marvel aids to the Lumity Life, missing the Paradise option altogether. It’s the noticeable speech clarity enhancement that attracted me to Lumity Life. You can always trial the Paradise and Lumity Life to see which one you prefer.

@kcsummerkc

I hope this helps…I have Phonak Audeo Paradise P90R’s. I’ve used them for about a year and a half. I’m at a point now where I’m happy with them. I’m concerned that a new hearing aid is out. That’s the Lumity. I see excellent posts on the Lumity from users here. They say they work better than the Paradise P90’s because in their view they understand speech in loud noisy environments better. I wouldn’t be able to find those posts again if I needed to…

This is my third set of Phonaks.
What I don’t like:

• the wax guards are awful; I have real trouble inserting them in the receivers. I’m 76; about the same age as you.
• My Father died at 76—similarity there with a comment you made.
• the Hearing Aids took too long to set up, and get real results
• cost

What I do like

• My audiologist has worked very very hard with me; he’s skilled and patient
• It was a miracle that he got the hearing aids at all (workman’s comp claim, and I wasn’t due for new hearing aids for 3 years
• They are working so much better than they did a month ago; they are acceptable now, but weren’t before

What I’ve learned

• The audiologist is key
• Good setup is essential
• I don’t like buying hearing aids; it’s extremely stressful

Hope this helps. I care.

Summary…my hearing aids work well for me now. If cost is a concern, and the Paradise P90’s are more affordable for you I hope this description helps you make a choice. Audologist is key–setup is so important.

DaveL
Toronto

Im glad to hear you’ve gotten such good results for a good length of time as well Yes thanks for your Very helpful information and sharing your experience with Paradise; as a matter of fact Yes I’ve decided on the Paradise P90 and hopefully also get positive results.

Good fortune to hear Workers Comp came through for you. It pays to roll the dice sometimes and come out a winner.

Agree whole heartedly about the wax shield. Ive wondered at times if they weren’t designed by the Marquis de Sade?

YES I concur buying hearing aids can be one if life’s stressful events. Sounds like your audiologist is a keeper!

@kcsummerkc

I bought my first hearing aid when I arrived in Toronto about 22 years ago. I found my audiologist in the yellow pages! I bought a single Widex in the ear HA. That’s all I could afford. Later…maybe 10 years later…

I was referred to the most amazing person and audiologist I’ve known. She helped me qualify for workman’s comp. It’s extremely difficult to qualify as I did. Later she sold her business.

There’s a book that I heard about here. It changed my hearing-impaired-life. It is:

“HEAR & BEYOND”, Live skillfully with Hearing Loss

by Shari Eberts and Gael Hannan

Why is it so good?

It touched on all phases of my hard-of-hearing experience over the last 30 or so years. It identified correctly where the stress comes from. Most importantly it showed me I had reacted as a victim of hearing loss. It showed me that I can learn to communicate better. That has helped me at work and home.

I bought the e-version. I liked it so much that I bought the paperback version too. The resources in it are priceless. I’m a much stronger advocate for myself now.

I learned about this book here. I shall be eternally grateful to the person that recommended it.

DaveL

@1Bluejay said:

In my dreams these Lumity Life aids would be BATTERY powered, but they are part of the growing trend away from disposable batteries.

Phonak hasn’t stopped releasing hearing aids with traditional batteries. You just have to wait. They simply cannot release every form factor immediately with every update, so they release to the largest market first and that happens to be rechargeable right now. Certainly we all want a hearing aid that includes everything we want–if I could mix all the best bits from all the manufacturers together into one super hearing aid I would. But I don’t know where you got the idea that phonak would be releasing “no more disposable batteries going forward”. It’s not the case. This round just happens to be focussing on rechargeables.

@Neville said:

if I could mix all the best bits from all the manufacturers together into one super hearing aid I would.

Do that … and you will be an instant millionaire many times over, and all of us here would be eternally grateful.

Yes I did rather get the impression that HA makers were just going to push out the rechargeables going forward. Altho surveys show more than half of HA wearers have rechargeables, if I’m in that group, I’m a hybrid, cuz I would’ve (and WILL) buy the battery version of Phonak Lumity Life aid if it ever comes out. Watchful waiting is my M.O. for now…

@Neville said:

they release to the largest market first

@Neville:,What source are you using as a basis for this market share assumption, @Neville?

Things high level people at phonak have told me. Proportional sales at my clinic.

@JordanK: I’m tempted to accuse you of misleading people about the percentage of hearing aids sold that are rechargeable. Your 79% only applies to RIC and BTE hearing aids, and NOT to all HAs sold, according to the Hearing Tracker article. To claim that the 79% figure applies to all hearing aids sold is a gross distortion of the data presented.

I am including a quote from the same Hearing Tracker article that says that that number (according to a Facebook page poll, which is not an unbiased sample) is more like 30% → up from 11%. That latter number is the one I believe.

• Four years later, in May 2020, we polled the members of our Facebook support group3 and found a huge jump in rechargeable hearing aid ownership, up to about 30% from 11% in 2016.

Forum readers need to read in a discerning way before they accept numbers like yours at face value.

@SpudGunner said:

• Four years later, in May 2020, we polled the members of our Facebook support group and found a huge jump in rechargeable hearing aid ownership, up to about 30% from 11% in 2016.

That quote is immaterial to the claim of current sales. Most owners keep their aids for many years and rechargeable aids are a recent phenomenon.

Both the claims and your quote can both be true.

@SpudGunner said:

call into question the veracity of the 79% assertion,

But nothing you said would do that. Percentage ownership and percentage of hearing aid sales do not coordinate. Especially since ownership numbers may include CIs that are not part of the sales statistics.

@tenkan : Tenq, I won’t be participating in any Rechargeable Slugfest. My only objective was to debunk the 79% number.

Ha ha, I’m only joking, let’s go for it, dam those rechargeable battery figures

I didn’t write the article or make any claim. The article says 79% of new sales are rechargeables. I believe Dr Cliff has stated in one of his videos that 80% of the sales in his practice are rechargeables.

Jordan