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In reply to @cvkemp

I received my Reals today, with new and more powerful receivers. He said these were an upgrade over the More and allows more room the increase the power in the future if needed. These are incredible so far, especially over my OPNs.

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In reply to @ToriNi

Demoing Real’s….There is hardly no feedback (cupping hands over ears) using my old custom molds/smallest vent with the Real. Coming from OPN1 105 receivers and powered up for my profound loss.
With these Real’s I have more room to increase volume as you have noticed.
Could be a matter of programming but I’ve notice increased directionality also, plus reduced wind noise issues and clearer with more base music streaming.

Obviously understanding speech with my loss will forever be an issue. Never had speech rescue deployed. Seems I’m told it will not help but make natural sound worst?

Same here with feedback. Massively improved. When I cup my ears, I get no feedback now whereas had loads with my OPNs so I’m delighted with this. Not tried SR yet but it’s in my second program. I have found it helped a bit with my OPNs but I use the General program 98% of the time, which is how I want it to be. Just put them on and that’s it.

I am going back Friday for some minor adjustments including just turning the default volume down a couple of notches but so far, I’m really pleased with them and I’m hearing so much more than I did with the OPNs. I will of course adjust further over the next few days but first impressions are amazing so far.

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@mstrmac said:

Demoing Real’s….There is hardly no feedback (cupping hands over ears) using my old custom molds/smallest vent with the Real. Coming from OPN1 105 receivers and powered up for my profound loss.
With these Real’s I have more room to increase volume as you have noticed.
Could be a matter of programming but I’ve notice increased DNR directionality also, plus reduced wind noise issues and clearer with more base music streaming.

Obviously understanding speech with my loss will forever be an issue. Never had speech rescue deployed. Seems I’m told it will not help but make natural sound worst?

The improvement in feedback from the OPN 1 is most likely from the feedback prevention technology that was introduced in the OPN S and carried over to the More and Real → they call it the OpenSound Optimizer → MoreSound Optimizer → and now RealSound Optimizer.

This improvement allows better margin so in tandem with it is more headroom for volume increase.

As far as directionality improvement, I must agree that the OPN gives you a Full Directional capability but it doesn’t seem to be very effective. But since the OPN S, Oticon provided the OpenSound Booster feature in the ON app (MoreSound Booster for the More, RealSound Booster for the Real), they must have tweaked the Full Directionality to be a lot more aggressive than before, which is how it should be in the first place.

I would not be afraid to try Speech Rescue. I use it and it sounds natural enough for me. It’s better than not being able to hear the highs that I miss before. If you haven’t been able to hear those highs and with that profound loss in the highs that you have, I would be willing to bet that even with very strong receivers, you most likely have not been able to hear those highs much at all anyway. So if you can’t remember what the natural sound of those high were like because you haven’t heard them for so long, you’ll most likely probably appreciate being able to hear anything in that region, let alone forget about being picky of how natural it’s supposed to sound. Yeah, the “s” and “sh” will sound alike, but that’s really no big deal at all in light of what I can get out of it, at least to me.

Oticon uses transposition and composition (instead of frequency compression), so those techniques in my opinion should make the highs sound more natural than with frequency compression anyway. I don’t just use Speech Rescue in a secondary program. I have Speech Rescue enabled in ALL of my 4 programs, even in the Music program.

In reply to @prodigyplace

I appreciate your comments on the receivers. I asked for small receivers because of my small ear canals and TMJ issues in my left ear. I started wearing Oticon Real 2 weeks ago with unsatisfactory hearing issues i.e. unnatural, distorted speech sounds and very loud sounds from unimportant sounds like hearing paper crinkle, clapping, high heels, etc. My speaker units are 3L and 3R 85 minifit. The volume on my right ear is turned up to as far as it will go and almost as high on the left ear. So I am wondering if the sound distortion is because the volume is so high and I need a higher receiver level.
Wearing a large receiver in my left ear is very painful. My two-week follow up appointment is in a few days. I hope my audi can figure this out.

The problem is that your hearing loss is such it needs more powerful receivers, which are larger.

In reply to @Artist

I agree you should try P100 receivers. Keep your 85 receivers, and have your Audi show you how to change them, in case you cannot tolerate the P100. It is very easy.
I have similar issues - very small & twisty ear canals. I wear P100 receivers. In the TMJ side, I wear a Starkey comfort bud dome Occluded, normally 7mm, but sometimes the 6mm. The dome is very soft. Pic below. My Pkg of the Starkey Comfort Bud is dated 2017, so I’ve been wearing these at least 6 years with no problems. They fit securely. The P100 receiver barely goes in my ear. Ask your Audi for some samples.
Paper crinkling too loud, etc is easily adjusted. Every time I get new hearing aids that sound initially is way too loud.

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Yes, @prodigyplace is correct that if you change receiver size, you need to tell Genie 2 that you’re using a different receiver so that Genie 2 can re-prescribe the gain curves to match with the new receivers. This will also prompt the to be redone for the different size receivers as well.

@Artist said:

I am planning on getting an Apple watch but I thought I saw on Oticon Real description on Oticon’s website that there was not a check mark by the watch indicating compatibility. Can anyone weigh in on this?

Dr. Cliff has a pretty good review of the Real. He’s pretty enthusiastic about it.

He likes the new Oticon smartphone app, too. But relative to watch compatibility, he says the app doesn’t run on an Apple Watch. Even without compatibility, having the app able to run on the Apple Watch allows you to control your ’s, change volumes, change programs, etc., through the iPhone remotely without looking for your iPhone or repetitively pushing buttons behind your ear. Dr. Cliff thinks in due time, the new Oticon app will be able to run on an Apple Watch. The ReSound Smart 3D app can run with almost full functionality on an Apple Watch, and it’s great - very responsive. Hopefully, the new Oticon app will be similarly delightful whenever Oticon updates it for the Apple Watch.

@Artist said:

I am planning on getting an Apple watch but I thought I saw on Oticon Real description on Oticon’s website that there was not a check mark by the watch indicating compatibility. Can anyone weigh in on this?

Use the Oticon ON app until Apple Watch is added to the Companion app. That is Oticon’s recommendation.

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