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In reply to @Waterbug

@Waterbug Smashing, this way people on this forum can give you a better advice.

It is feasible but costly.

Another option:

One could connect a TV Connector with the amplifier and get the audio straight into the hearing aids:

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hearing impaired x teacher here. I left teaching before all these assistive devices were available. Classroom is a tough place to be hearing impaired. I use the Roger on, In a classroom if you are walking around the room it will work perfectly, Just point it at the student you want to work with. Teaching from the front of the classroom, asking and answering questions will be harder. You will have to walk closer to the speaker for the Roger to be of any help. small groups, you can lay it flat in the middle of the table.

On another note:

Thank you so much. I am leaning toward Roger ON. As a sub I’m generally not presenting lessons, rather giving assignment, keeping students on task and answering questions, but generally not teaching in front of class. Rather walking rows and at desk or podium in front of room.

I left teaching at 61 due to hearing impairment. I just wasn’t able to hear well enough to effectively facilitate lessons. Since I have upgraded to Phonak lumity 90 last year and now looking at Roger ON. The Phonak representative will bring several things to try and hopefully we can create enough background noise to see if it works well.

Do you find the Roger ON works well enough in restaurants etc.? That is my other big problem area. I also thought I could clip it on my husbands shirt in car.

I guess I am going to have to learn better program management. I appreciate your encouragement.

I have both - Select In and On In, and, for me, nothing helps… I hear the sounds, but can’t understand what’s being said. If interested in buying Select In, please message me.

I am a retired professor continuing to do some teaching and participate in academic conferences. Fairly severe hearing loss. I now have Lumity Life 90s , with a new Roger On (2.0?) and Roger select . The Roger select is fabulous for small rooms and seminar kinds of settings, and I supplement with the pointer function of Roger on mic . As people have mentioned, these 2 aren’t designed to interconnect well. When I use it in pointer mode the select table mode is off and vice versa but it is not seamless to constantly transition. That poses problems in many settings where I’ll want to hear various speakers back and forth in a larger , perhaps noisy room, especially when the speakers have quiet or otherwise hard to hear voices. This is also a problem with social groups in noisy places. I like to go on walks or hikes with several people in sometimes windy conditions and when I can’t read everyone’s lips I give the Roger on to one speaker but then can’t hear the rest or I hold the Roger select flat in my hand to trigger table mode but that’s awkward. I also find that although the Select is fabulous, I sometimes want to control it more to amplify speakers on one side of the room. Although you can tap one side to do this manually it switches out automatically when sounds change. I need devices that I don’t constantly have to fiddle with since that distracts from paying attention to the speech, lip reading etc. I’m thinking of adding the Table Mic II to allow several devices at once and also to extend the amplification in a large room, maybe for other group settings. Yes, I’ve invested a lot of money in this! It’s the only way I can continue to function in this professional work and social activities.

I am leaning toward the Roger On v2 to start. With subbing I mainly provide assignment directions, keep students on task and and answer questions as needed either walking the student rows or at desk/ podium. I think the Roger ON with be the best with its different functions. I would love to own it and either the select or table mic but I have to start somewhere. Being retired, I need something that will work the best in social situations, resturants, in the car etc. The Phonak rep is coming the 24th and bringing the Roger ON, Select and table mic for me to try. As far as pricing goes they all appear to be similiarly priced. Does anyone know the life span of these gagets? Do they last 5 years, 10 etc.

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Have you considered adding captions via a speech-to-text app on a smartphone or tablet? Live Transcribe for Android is fantastic and free. If one person is speaking or is closer than chatter this could work.

Also, lowering the environmental sounds helps remote mics work better. And don’t assume Roger mics are better than competitors just because Sonova (Phonak) chooses to charge ridiculous prices. I have used theirs and others and prefer others. Of course, since you have Phonak aids it makes sense you’d use their mics. I just choose other brands because I cannot tolerate the prices Phonak charges.

In reply to @Waterbug

I use my Roger on in restaurants, either by pointing it at the person I am talking to, or by laying it flat on the table ( or up on a cup so it is closer to the speakers mouth ). I f ind it very useful. You likely need to turn off and or lower the hearing aid mics and only use the Roger mics to eliminate the background noises. I also retired from teaching in part because I just could not function well in the classroom with my level of hearing impairment. As a special ed. teacher with ED kids , well they also took advantage of my impairment.

In reply to @Waterbug

I have also used the resound multi mic, cheaper, but no pointing ability, and not that good in groups. A cheaper alternative is the ROGER PEN. But I am guessing you will be happiest with the Roger on.

In reply to @Waterbug

I brought the select IN during the pandemic and really didn’t get a chance to try it out in any challenging places such as loud restaurants, etc. I have to say I’m less than impressed with it in loud places. It does pick up quiet voices like my grandkids but it also picks up other voices and noise making it hard to understand or separate one from another. Hopefully which ever unit you choose to purchase, they will give you some time to try it out to see for yourself if it works for you. Good luck!

I’m late to the party here, but I agree with all the recommendations to start with the Roger On. It doesn’t need to be the v2. If you’re paying for it out of pocket, there are often v1s on ebay for $100 or less. The only difference is that when it’s connected to a computer to stream audio during something a Zoom call, the v2 will use the On’s mic rather than the computer’s mic when you speak. So unless that’s something you do all the time (and the other people on the call frequently complain that they can’t hear you because your mic is terrible), it’s not worth paying more.

In reply to @rothlev1

I have Lumity L90’s and recently got the Roger ON v2. It is very expensive, but it is an amazing device. I use it to watch TV as it is independent of the speakers that my wife can adjust to her setting. The table mode is really fantastic in restaurants and allows me to participate in conversations much more. Nothing is perfect, but it is really helpful to me. And the pointing mode is useful too to improve S/N for someone who is far away. My wife can hang it around her neck so I can hear her when she is not so close. I find it switches seamlessly to the different modes, and if for some reason I don’t want to hear from it, I can just switch modes to automatic with an ear press, and when I want it back another ear press. It is interesting that I am also a retired professor, who gave up teaching because I could not properly interact with a class because I could not answer questions of a quiet speaker in the back of the room. I could probably do it now, with these new devices!

While I have, and use, all the different Roger devices by far the most important thing is to focus and adjust your hearing aids correctly. I play with the Phonak app a lot in challenging situations.

In reply to @franc210

I took early retirement, and took up taxes as a 2nd career. generally 1/1 or 1/2 in a quiet environment. I use the device for phone calls ( hooked to the phone or computer depending on the phone system at the time ). ( now it is a VOIP system , ). and occasionally I need it at the desk for a soft spoken client. all good, technology enables me to function , albeit not perfectly, but better with my family and friends and soft spoken granddaughters, and it enables me to work.

In reply to @Waterbug

@Waterbug said:

I have Oll to transcribe is Live Transcibe any better?

I have both Otter and Live Transcribe. I use Live Transcribe more because with my cellphone (Samsung S20) I don’t have to have WiFi on. With Otter I had to have it on.

Live Transcribe has been a life saver! Oh, on my tablet though, Live Transcribe doesn’t work without WiFi.

I use the Roger ON. I don’t have the others. The Roger ON does a really good job for me but it has to be set up carefully. The defaults did not work well, but tweaked, I now do not want to be without it.

For a classroom, you can use it in pointer mode, where you point it at the person speaking. You can also use it in pass-around mode. Not sure how well that would work in a classroom.

There is an option to increase its power/range so I don’t think range would be an issue.

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