Auditory processing training

@user490 said:

Even with PTA >25 some will pass APD testing. That does not mean perfect scores.

Sure, and of course. I was just answering the question about what “typically hearing” means in this context. Whether you think that definition is a good representation is a whole other debate…

But in short, they’d define what normal is (based on some variation of what was discussed), to try and exclude SNHL as the cause, then do APD tests on that “normal” population to establish a reference. Then they compare test subjects to that.

Not saying that process is perfect by any means, and interpretation of results really depends on the practitioners skill and experience.

Yes absolutely. It’s a lot of “two standard deviations beyond the norm" type cutoffs, and for hearing loss there will be a lot of overlap but the population curve will probably be shifted. We just don’t know.

But additionally, as long as support for the efficacy of a lot of auditory training remains weak, the technological interventions for hearing loss and APD really overlap, so there might not be that much of a functional use of the additional diagnosis.

Oh, listening to music maybe not but playing music maybe yes. The more engaged you are with the signal the better, so practicing music or actively listening to a book are good but passively listen to music not so much.

Great, thank you! I practice everyday so can get lots of training .

Would you happen to have suggestions for phonemic synthesis? Increasing volume or eliminating background noise does not help. Been in a few emergency situations and drills where I “could not hear” at all very loud clear, but non-contextual, anouncements and alarms of “fire”, “intruder alert”, etc.

I test 3 SD out for these categories. Not even worried about the 2 SD categories.

My hospital/insurance treats APD as a learning disability and thus, does not acknowledge it, which includes SLP not having the background.

I paid for my APD testing independently and the audiologist did suggest Buffalo model training, as well as two other training, one for my amblyaudia and one for auditory arrhythmia. It’d be very costly do complete all, have retesting afterwards, and continue training if needed; my feeling is that I’ll need multiple rounds.

Yes, only after covid/long covid. I tested in the most severe category of long covid cognitively and physically for four years.

Yes, I’m very curious what the difference is between that and one with an audiologist as the pricing for that website program is much more affordable.

They’re going to be close, it’s just self-driven. There’s a lot of research showing that many people are just really bad and being self-driven and so outcomes are poorer. Also, in-person, the clinician can adjust a bit more flexibly to changes–slow down where you need more work, speed up where you don’t. BUT, if you’re a good self-motivator outcomes may be comparable.