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@mindsil said:

I was hoping you could explain it to us

Dr. C explains LACE Pro App. Check this video.

A buddy of mine told me about Lace recently. His audiologist helped him put the app on his phone. He asked me about Lace and gave me a link to get Lace.

Lace has a list of participating audiologist. If your audiologist is not on their list Lace will be happy to take your $500 for the use of their app.

Lace was friendly and quickly talked about taking your money for the Lace Pro app. I passed on the Lace app. My audiologist did too.

In reply to @mindsil

Each module has only its own exercises in it. 1. Rapid speech,

  1. speech in noise,
    1. fill in the blanks (narrator responds to his or her friend’s comment but leaves one word out, saying “blank” in the sentence) and
    2. working memory. I’ve only done the first 3 and like all of them. If I choose rapid speech, I get ten tests where the narrator speaks fast for a sentence or 2. Then I have to prompt it when I’m ready for the answer to appear in words. I then hit yes if I correctly heard 75% of what was said, or no if not. After yes, it moves you on to test 2. No gives you the option to hear it again, as many times as you want. If I didn’t hear well I lower my eyes so I don’t see the answer, so I can practice figuring out what was said over and over without any clues. The yes and no buttons are conveniently at the bottom of my screen, so it’s easy to avoid accidentally finding the answer before I want it.

In reply to @mindsil

I usually do speech in noise testing multiple times. Each session has 10 exercises, so 7 times will give me 70 test exercises. I use my desktop because the sound is more like conversation, harder to pick up on. My friend who is borderline needing aids came over one time and we both did a lot of speech in noise testing together, but keeping the answers to ourselves to not provide help to the other person. He liked the tests and wanted to do more. I can switch to any of the other 3 after finishing the 10 that I started. Fill in the blanks is spoken by the narrator in normal tones so it’s easier to understand what was said, but guessing the correct word (5 are offered for me to choose from) is sometimes hard because the answer requires logical thinking. If I do enough session and score 90% or better it progresses me to 2 blanks. The tests require me to get each of the 2 answers in the right blanks, and the test sentence requires thinking carefully sometimes. Getting too many errors during 2 blank testing gets me demmoted back to 1 blanker tests, until I get enough 90%’s to move up again. The program decides when to promote or demote me. //////

There are many topics for you to choose to have the narrator speak about in the test, I keep changing my selections, every few days but it is not necessary if you are satisfied with the topics. I started with science, but the pronunciation of long unfamiliar words that I didn’t know the meaning of made it too challenging to pick up in the noisy environment module so I deselected it. Often I won’t understand anything in the noisy or fast speaking modules the first time, but words start popping out when I hit replay. Some of the noisy environment tests have more background noise than others, so I imagine the is studying what my levels of understanding are. /////// Back to fill in the blanks - Lace refers to it as deductive reasoning testing, which I agree with. It’s the only one that has 2 characters speaking to each other in each exercise, although I imagine the working memory module will be like that too.
But the main benefit will be if I can learn what my relatives are saying. As I mentioned before, I can’t understand 4 of them entirely, and the speech of the 2 teenagers is almost totally lost. Once they respond to the invitation that I sent, AI will create a version of each of their voices, and I can select one of their voices to train with all of the time. And I can change my voice selection, so if I want to train with Tammy’s voice for 10 sessions, then Gail’s voice for 5 sessions that will be done. The nice thing is if I select Tammy as the voice, every training session (forever if I want) will be with her until I choose Gail.

In reply to @mindsil

Since I’ve only done it for a week I don’t think my will be of use. I lost most of the high notes in one ear and the other was almost normal 5 years ago, but the test 2 years ago said I had lost more hearing. I think each person will have a different experience, but if you have someone who you converse with frequently that you can’t understand well, $400 is a bargain if it helps at all. I’ll let my voice partners sit in on a session with me, so they can see what they sound like. Maybe the 2 males will make an effort when around me to stop dropping their voices at the ends of sentences if they hear themselves mumbling in the program. They might be more receptive to my suggestions if they see how they speak - otherwise I know that no one but the hard of hearing cares about helping make speech more intelligible, from watching my father throw up his arms impatiently and stop speaking to his father when his father couldn’t hear him. If the people hear how inconsistent their speech is, that would be a benefit of LACE, even if I can’t improve my own hearing. My aids are exactly 5 years old - my audiologist said that mfgr. has created new aids that are much different than what I own, from a few of their technological upgrades in the last 5 years (which make it harder to repair the old ones because they have to decide how many incompatible parts that still work also have to be replaced each time one part of the aid gets repaired) then so he recommended I get new ones but it’s over $7k to do so, and I’m on a budget for now so upgrading might not happen until a catastrophic repair estimate shows up.

In reply to @user490

No that CD is obsolete. For one thing, the can turn a voice sample of people that you can’t understand into the narrator, so you can practice figuring out their voice. Click on the LACE “voices” option to send a message to your friend and from there, they submit a sample to LACE which becomes the narrator. Then next time you train choose your friends voice.

In reply to @d_Wooluf

No there is more to it than your summary. You now take an obsolete 20th century $99 CD and throw it in the garbage, because the can do modern things, such as creating an optional voice of a friend that you can’t understand (much of their talking ) and LACE puts that voice into your training as an option. Now I’m training with that friend’s voice to learn how to understand that friend to be able to converse well with in future.

In reply to @Neville

Whenever I hear the "considering it delivers priceless value" argument, I put my hand over my wallet. My impression is it was developed ~15+ years ago, with state academic funding to boot.

Literature on training was enthusiastic, then went silent. 15% non-completion/rejection.

Seems lie a good idea, but why did the literature go silent?

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