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hi everyone,

I’m new here, live in the Netherlands. Use hearing aids for more than 40 years now. Was surprised to find this forum. Feel a bit like a dummie after reading some topics with very specific discussions.

My hearing loss is both sides about 85 db with the very highest frequencies faded out. I 'm testing Phonak Naida Lumty UP with a Roger On (after years with Phonak Naida Venture UP) Most of the time I use my aids in music programme.
Using the music programme is to have better contact with everything around. With the Lumity It seems I can hear a little better where sounds come from besides and back. That feels really better. But I’m a bit disappointed about the speech results (without Roger on)

Besides I’m very eager to experiene Oticon Xceed because of the 360 hearing and the brainhearing technology. But the dealer as well as the audiologist are NOT eager to let me test this, quite sad and disappointing. If anyone has an idea why this could be the case, share your thoughts.

For myself I 'm very interested in experiences of people with an alike hearing loss with Phonak Naida and Oitcon

And specifically what the experiences are with Phonak Naida Lummity / Oticon Exceed

  • Subjective experience
  • Speech
  • Keeping contact with what is going on around you (picking up sounds around you, hearnig where sounds come from, recognising sounds)
  • Additional microphone accessories (which did you try and is there difference in your communication quality in noisy situations between Phonak and Oitcon microphone accessoiries) Are there issues with userfriendliness?

Any opinions about other options to consider? (Resound probably?) Or are the Naida Lumity and Oticon Xceed the best options and why?

PS I prefer hearing aids with 670 batteries with compatible really good performing noise cancelling microphone(s) preferably without having to use a neckloop and with a high audioquality connection to gadgets with 3,5 mm audio jack and with a very privacyfriendly steady wireless connection with iPhone/Androidphone.

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I’ve worn both the Phonak Nadia L70 UP and the Oticon Xceed 1 UP.

I’m now wearing rebranded ReSound hearing aid specifically for the UK NHS which uses 675 batteries.

In terms of how I like them, Phonak L70 were extremely muted, I couldn’t hear well with them at all. Oticon Xceed I got more out of them compared to the Phonak but I’m now preferring the GN Danalogic Ambio S 98 hearing aid that I’m now using.

My GN Danalogic Ambio S 98 is the Enzo mid range technology.

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@Soundcloud said:

But the HA dealer as well as the audiologist are NOT eager to let me test this, quite sad and disappointing. If anyone has an idea why this could be the case, share your thoughts.

Perhaps they simply don’t feel that those hearing aids would perform well for you. There may be other reasons. Have you asked them why?
Personally, knowing user @Zebras has given what I consider well-informed advice on this forum, I’d give GN ReSound Enzo hearing aids a try, if you can.

I’ll provide a different take. Considering you’ve been wearing Phonak for years and that the Phonak Naida UP and Roger setup is pretty premium I’d stick with them. If you want to explore other options, depending on your word recognition scores you might consider a cochlear implant evaluation.

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Also great advice! What works/doesn’t work for one person can be entirely different for someone else.
And, of course, a cochlear implant evaluation doesn’t require @Soundcloud to have the surgery once the evaluation is completed.

@Soundcloud said:

But I’m a bit disappointed about the speech results (without Roger on)

What’s your percentage in (Word Recognition Score) in quiet in the left and right side separately and binaurally?

What’s diameter of vent in your earmolds?

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hi all,

Thank you all very much for reading and replying! So nice that you understand what I was writing about!

@Zebras Happy for you that you are very confident now with your Resound. If you would like to tell a bit more about why you prefer Resount (with positive reasons), I’m interested. thank you for the very specific info about the Resound you use great that you know the European name of the GN Danalogic. Resound Enzo is know in The Netherlands as well.

@AttilaDaPun Yes I asked them. The audiologist thought I shouldn’t try too much different aids. The dealer pointed out that (after I told her about my fascination with Oticon’s 360 degrees hearing and Brainhearing techology) that the Excees is from 2019 and there isn’t yet a newer model for severe to profound hearing loss. More of you insist with that and I found inormation that confirms this.

Does anyone know anything about if/when Oticon releases a new model for severe hearing loss?
(By the way, on the internet I found many professional opinions that stated thad Oticon Exceed is not the best option for severe hearing loss. But you newer know, maybe the opinions will change after the release of a/the new model)

It interesting but also logic of course to read that different persons have different experiences, great that anyone can share his/hers here!

Somewhere I ‘ve read that Ci users chose for Resound Hearing adis. I didn’t understand that, but after a search I learned that Resound Enzo is the only of one of the very few hearing aids that provides direct streaming to hearing aids as well as to a . Is that the reason for you as CI user to prefer Rsaound ?

@MDB To be honest: I’m not yet convinced about the Rogers in combination with the Naida’s. One of the reasons I want to look to other options. the last sis years I had a Roger Select, but only less than 5 times I have had some convenience with it. Very frustrated and sad about this. So oftern I tried it but it didnt help. Now it seems that the connection with the former naida’s was struck, for with the new naida’s paring is much more reliable. Furhtermore, the audiologist has lowered the loudness of the hearing aid microhpone in the Rogerprogramme .So now the testing can begin. Next week soms dificult listening situations.

CI evaluation / considering CI - some of you mentioned this. This is a painfull matter for me. But recently I ‘ve decided to to gather more information about this as well. indeed evaluation is not yet surgery :slight_smile:

My speech performance with hearing aids (Naida’s ) tested one by one was about 70 percent.

@PeterH I’m happy for you and thanks for sharing

@Bimodal_user around 70 percent word recognition with 70 loudness. diameter : don’t know but is ‘t very very small. I’m curious what your reply will be. if I may ask: what do you mean with user?

My conclusion is:

  • The Naida’s installation is about finished, now try to get everything out of the Roger options
  • I expect that a more expensive model of Phonak Naida will not make a great difference because I use the music programme most of the time (If anyone disagrees with this conclusion - I ‘m interested why)
  • I find it very important To find out if this is the best I can reach with Hearing aids. Shoud I test the basic programma of the Naida’s to find out if they give better results? (The was taken with my aids in music programme)
  • Because of the with to find out if 70 percent word recognition is the best possible result, I want to try another set. Given the advises en experiences here and the great streaming option of the Resound Enzo with Ci , asking for a test of Resound is on my wishlist.
  • Oticon Exceed it not advised by anyone. If someone does have a different opinion please speak out, I’m interested :slight_smile:

PS There are financial and practical reasons not to wait for release of new Oticon aids. concerning phonak: I didn’t experience much advantage betwoon Naida Venture and Naida Lumity. There was a severe connection bug between the Naida venture and the Roger Select - I should have addressed this six years ago. Happy the Select works with the Naida Lumity.

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@Soundcloud said:

@Zebras Happy for you that you are very confident now with your Resound. If you would like to tell a bit more about why you prefer Resount (with positive reasons), I’m interested. thank you for the very specific info about the Resound you use great that you know the European name of the GN Danalogic. Resound Enzo is know in The Netherlands as well.

I don’t hear any wind what so ever with ReSound which I did with Oticon Xceed 1 UP. I couldn’t hear wind with Phonak either but I couldn’t hear much at all with Phonak anyway.

All sounds seem clearer with ReSound where’s Oticon Xceed, it muddled into one. I don’t have any speech recognition just noise. With the ReSound, I’m able to make out what I’m hearing compared to nothing with Oticon Xceed.

I like the ReSound App more then the basic Oticon App.

Can’t think of anything else really.

If I had more hearing, I would definitely get the new ReSound Enzo.

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If my hearing loss were more severe, I’d most likely get a pair of ReSound Enzo hearing aids.
If I may take the liberty of answering a question that I don’t see an answer for, a user is someone who uses a hearing aid on one side, and a cochlear implant on the other.

In reply to @Zebras

Thank you for your explanation! I ‘m on the list for a test with ReSound Enzo Q.
(Unfortunately the the ReSound Enzo IA seems as far as I can see to be only available as a rechargeable model, no model with battery feed.)

Update

Still testing Phonak Naida Lumity 50. I m not happy with them. Sound is not stable. now the left aid seems to give softer sounds than right, then it ‘s the opposite. Never experienced this before (more than 40 years hearing aid experience). Somethimes it feels as if the sound is changed while nothing is changed in the settings.

not happy with this.

My other options are Oticon Xceed. People advise to wait for the new Oticon model. But then I have to wait till 2026. And I don’t want rechargeable hearing aids.

Maybe a dummy question but I’m wondering what the disadvantages could be of buying Oticon at this moment?

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