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I’m back today. I noticed someone was wondering why there aren’t more Chinese comments here. Well, I’m actually one of the people working in the hearing aid industry in China, though I’m not in sales

I wanted to mention that the average person in China typically doesn’t have access to this forum. Furthermore, for those not involved in this specific industry, hearing aids are a pretty niche topic.

Here’s some latest insight I can share: Currently, there are almost no Chinese B2C brands selling traditional programmable hearing aids directly to other countries.

However, within China itself, we have a extensive network of hospitals and local clinics that do provide personalized services. This includes custom ear molds and programming hearing aids to fit individual patients’ .

On the B2B side, Chinese companies are making efforts to develop and sell traditional programmable hearing aids. But everyone in the industry knows this is a challenging and long road. Even the R&D for our hearing aids has many layers of issues to break through. For instance, most people understand OTC devices as simply amplifying sound. We are actively optimizing this, for example, by using better, more stable chips and incorporating features like noise reduction to improve speech clarity in noisy environments. But these improvements take time and require waiting for market feedback.

If you’re genuinely interested, you can keep an eye on Chinese companies such as the publicly-listed company Jinghao (www.jhhearingaids.com17), as well as others like Goodmi, Austar, and Earmate.

I’ll also keep watching to see if any Chinese companies or specific models of traditional programmable hearing aids become available for you to purchase locally. If I find any, I’ll occasionally recommend them here in the forum.

I sincerely hope this information can help those in need.

In reply to #82

Are the Chinese and non-Chinese brands sold at the same locations? Or does one have to seek out Oticon for example? What is the cost of a pair of top level Chinese hearing aid to compare to the local market cost of a pair of Intent 1?

What is the state of audiological research in China specific to Chinese language? Are they performing research in many languages which I assume is required to develop better hearing aids?

@jimy said: (unavailable)

a pair of top-tier hearing aids costs approximately $2,000 per unit

I read this as 2,000 USD/pair, which is indeed lower than in other countries- I guess this reflects lower costs for fitting. Without getting into a political discussion- it is a shame that this Forum is invisible in China; TikTok is of little help getting Target to fine-tune your Spheres. But perhaps there are decent domestic Forums.

In reply to #88

Is that generally the situation in China that there are fewer forum style websites? In some countries for example the internet is essentially Facebook. China might tilt toward social large platforms and less open distributed web. In the US many forums have died off over time. China may have had fewer legacy sites to begin with.

Not surprising as it’s probably a bit of a free-for-all when it comes to manufacturing, keeping in mind they are potentially catering to a global market. Not everyone gets to live by the same standards as those that generally frequent this forum.

In reply to @user490

Thanks for tagging me. I appreciate the suggestion about reviewing China-market-only programmable hearing aids.

I’d like to clarify a few things:

While I work in the industry, my role is not in sales or technical support, so I don’t have direct access to multiple devices for testing.

I don’t have hearing loss myself, which makes it difficult for me to evaluate the real-user experience and performance subjectively. I’m also not an audiologist, so I lack the professional tools and criteria needed for a structured review.

Purchasing various hearing aid models for testing isn’t financially feasible for me at the moment.

That said, I’d be glad to help in other ways—such as sharing industry insights or connecting people with relevant professionals or resources. If there’s interest in collaborative reviews or data-driven comparisons, I’m open to discussing ideas.

Thanks for thinking of me, and I hope we can find a practical way to move forward on this!

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@Bimodal_user said:

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@RobHooft said:

As a generally thick-skinned individual I must confess to get mildly irritated when someone calls me “deaf”. A bit like calling a person with glasses “blind”. Extremely sloppy language.

Why not just old good “hard-of-hearing person” :sweat_smile:

@kev716 said:

Well, no, the Deaf are a cultural group who communicate primarily using sign language.

What, I still can’t hear ya, but no never heard of this “sub group” but ok you don’t want to be associated with that lot then, it’s ok, being deaf is nothing to be embarrassed about.

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