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Just disabling “AutoSense” and selecting say “Calm situation” as the default start-up program, will increase battery life enormously (like a new platform).
This also gave me my brain back, by ceasing AutoSense’s constantly changing programs in each ear, differently at different times, which used to cause me to lose balance whilst riding my bike.
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Agree. Further new platforms usually take a while to work out the “bugs”. It is always good to remember that it takes engineers from 4 or more companies working in teams to successfully navigate a major update, which usually doesn’t happen until the HEs are out in the wild for a while and Bluetooth chips and firmware have stabilized. and have gone through a several updates of firmware, software, APPs, along with integration with the different levels of Bluetooth chips and firmware that the phone manufactures (iPhone, Android, Samsung) are using. It took Jabra and Resound nearly 2 years to iron out 90% of their problems with a new “platform” which had to navigate major changes in Bluetooth chips and firmware that the phone hardware companies were rolling out to their different levels of phones. IMHO, unless you are into tech and have the patience of Job do not take on a new platform until it has been out in the wild with both iPhones and Samsung phones with minimal reported problems for at least 6 months and preferably a year.
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From what I’ve gathered over the years, there’s no rhyme or reason when any new aid will roll out, much less a new platform. You have to give Phonak points for being (by far) the most consistent manufacturer of new products, from small hidden aids to power aids. Other manufacturers, unfortunately, have lost track of consistent roll-outs, to the point you might have to wait three to five years for a new aid to show up. Amazing how cell phones each year come out with new bells and whistles at a quarter of the cost of a new aid, while many HA manufacturers sit on their hands offering very little (in upgrades) to potential buyers.
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Sorry but totally disagree, it’s just not true Phonak are the most consistent for anything more then the rest/other’s.
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testing123, Yes, This subject has been discussed in past threads on this forum. As one poster pointed out, makers of smart phones sell many millions of phones every year. R&D is spread over that huge volume. makers sell a fraction of those units.
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I also expect a new line of additional devices like Phonak TV connector, partner mic, roger, etc. and also Bluetooth LE compatibility. Maybe Phonak will start producing it with support for competing hearing aids, they would probably make a lot more money if it was compatible with all brands.
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I’m probably closer to tenkan on this, especially after the whole “Ultra” confusion. That was not exactly Sonova’s finest communication moment. Whether it was technically a firmware/platform update or not, they let a lot of people think there was a meaningfully new hearing aid coming, and that kind of thing makes me less inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.
That said, I don’t think the cell phone comparison really works either. Hearing aids are not just little phones for your ears. They have to work with fitting software, receivers, domes, chargers, apps, iPhones, Samsung phones, Android Bluetooth weirdness, Roger/TV accessories, firmware updates, and the audiologist’s fitting workflow. Then they have to do all that in a tiny low-power device sitting in a sweaty ear all day without feedback, dropouts, or making people crazy.
So I do think Frank_G has a fair point: new platforms probably do need time in the wild before all the bugs get shaken out. I’m not thrilled to admit it, but Sonova may actually be doing that part more responsibly than a yearly “new model!” phone-style cycle.
Where I’m less charitable is the marketing side. The companies love the “breakthrough ” language when it helps sell the product, but then when the actual difference is firmware, accessories, app support, or some vague platform wording, everything gets slippery. That’s where people get annoyed.
And yes, with chip advances I’d love to see the Sphere-level processing in a smaller body. The current size is not exactly invisible. Maybe that’s coming, maybe not. But I’d rather they be honest about what is actually new than dress up firmware and platform tweaks like a whole new generation.
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I just got my Spheres, not yet Ultras, back the first of December. I have found my best yet hearing aids. I am not even concerned about get the Ultra firmware update. Unfortunately the hearing aid industry has fallen for the rat race of the rest of the electronics industry and seeing who can come up with the next best gadget. I wish they would slow down and concentrate on fixing the firmware and software to best serve their customers. It has become a game of making more money at the expense of the very people who cannot afford it. Yes they need to have the platform work with all possible needs of hearing loss.
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Sorry but totally disagree, it’s just not true Phonak are the most consistent for anything more then the rest/other’s.
Maybe one exception to that rule @tenkan Namely ’s, Phonak have up until now, always released a Naida BTE UP & SP versions, the last Naida Lumity UP was released in or around December 2024 (When I got mine) Oticon appear to have given up the ghost on the Severe/Profound thresholds, their last release of a BTE UP was in 2019… I am ever hopeful, some form of Naida Sphere will be released by the end of this year? Most other top hearing aid manufacturers do not appear to be interested in the Severe/Profound, I understand it’s a “Niche” market, with probably 5% of overall sales, but surely there is a moral obligation to insure that those whom have the most challenging losses are adequately catered for? 7 years or thereabouts is quite shocking for Oticon lovers as most folks know, we are particularly selective as to what we stuff in our Lugs, much of this is down to personal sound preferences…Cheers Kev 
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but surely there is a moral obligation to insure that those whom have the most challenging losses are adequately catered for?
I’m a geek and therefore I sometimes listen in on company earnings calls. I listened to this one. Phonak’s CEO emphasized multiple times how they were gaining significant market share in Japan and how great the margins were. In other words, they were happy that they could get away with charging high prices.
So much for moral obligations. I’m not saying they other guys are better, they are not. This is just the reality we live in.
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True Kev,it’s quite shocking really that it’s still going on like this, only ReSound Enzo UP and to a lesser extent Signia Motion SP IX has come to the party for this segment of the market, hopefully this new platform from Phonak will include a UP.
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Yeah @wtolkien The price is always what people are prepared to pay or perhaps forced to pay might be more accurate! Like you, I am unquestionably a Geek, a very dyslexic one… I was building my own computers almost 30 years ago, with the help and assistance of another very dyslexic friend! We built some very sophisticated PC’s on a limited budget… Nowadays, I am more into Solar PV Arrays, and energy efficiency, the Lithium batteries are the key to Solar energy, even in the Scottish Highlands, I haven’t paid for any grid electricity since 11th of February this year, apart from standing charges… I have 10kWh of Solar PV Arrays, 2 completely different systems, 2 different inverters, one is a 4kWh system, installed professionally 2012, the other is a new 6kWh system, completely installed by myself, it was a massive learning curve, with 48kWh of Lithium batteries, 8kWh smart inverter, these smart inverter’s are basically “plug and play” it’s probably safe to say, programming the inverter, is the difficult part, but I got there eventually! To my pleasant surprise, the smart inverter basically took over both systems, and now they work well together… As far as Phonak releasing a new Naida UP goes, I think that will happen sometime, perhaps the Fall or Winter months? Phonak likes to hold the moral high ground in their blurbs, by saying they always cater for the severe/profound losses… Here’s hoping! Cheers Kev
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Naida Lumity UP was released in or around December 2024 (When I got mine)
I don’t want to argue, just for clarity: IIRC, Naida Lumity UP was released around Aug 2023.
I only supposing, but there will be new Naida Infinio released and that is certain. They will probably release one Naida Link Infinio hearing aid. So maybe the regular Naida Infinio UP will also be released by the way?
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I don’t want to argue, just for clarity: IIRC, Naida Lumity UP was released around Aug 2023.
Not in the UK it wasn’t @Bimodal_user I was one of the people to try out this aid in a comparison test for Boots UK, I compared it against the Naida Paradise UP, I was given 30% off the price for doing this, Lumity might have came out in August 23, but not here in the UK, I did a full review on here from around December 24, I believe I was first to do a review on the Naida Lumity UP? Cheers Kev
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Wow, whaaat? Naida Lumity was accessible in UK after over a year? I am surprised. Yes, I remember your topic, one of the most interesting and one of the longest on this forum 
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Thank you @Bimodal_user Interestingly, it was the first time for me to be asked to do a review, which basically meant going to see my Audiologist every couple of weeks, for a couple of months and answering dozens of questions, no upfront cost were involved, and I was under no obligation to buy, they only said they would knock a good percentage off the price, if I did buy, as a thank you for helping their review/assessment… Cheers Kev
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If the new model is released this year, when might Costco provide it? Based on past trends, the Infinio was released in 2024, and Costco received the Rise model in 2026. Given this pattern, could we expect availability in 2028? If so, it is bad news for us. 
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