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In reply to @cvkemp

This is how I understand things. rides along with and is in addition to Bluetooth. Bluetooth has always been implemented to be downward compatible. So if a receiver can receive Auracast then it can also receive bluetooth LE and bluetooth Classic etc.
As far as I understand.

In reply to @Spindel

@Spindel said:

Sorry, which previous Oticon model has received Auracast? Do you mean Intent? Isn’t that the current generation?

was announced for the release of the Zeal. Shortly after that release, it was enabled on the Intent with firmware 1.3.0

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@z10user2 said:

So if a receiver can receive Auracast then it can also receive bluetooth LE and bluetooth Classic etc.

I don’t think any particular subset of Bluetooth functionality is mandatory. If someone wants to build an -only device they can do that.

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@z10user2 said:

This is how I understand things. Auracast rides along with and is in addition to Bluetooth.

To be clear, is a subset of Bluetooth , enabling (Aurally) casting to multiple receivers.

If you have a Google Pixel, it’s built in and called “share audo”. I can’t say for any other Android or iOS devices.
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In reply to @Lour

I don’t think it should be an either or situation. Is very much over promising and under delivering. I keep hoping a new competitor will enter the market and blow up the “cartel” the big manufacturers have on the market. If I can buy a device like an I-phone for $1000.00 I will never be convinced the pricing model is not collusion among those manufacturerers. Phonak proved this a few years ago by selling a Costco Branded aid (Paradise) at a lower price point than audiologist could obtain the Marvel. Short changing their customers on is not going to help their brand loyalty.

I have no idea if Phonak will eventually update Infinio Ultra (and Ultra Sphere) to . I’m unaware of them having blatantly broken their word. They’ve always been late to the game in connectivity. When Made for iPhone hearing aids came out, they stuck with their accessory device, the Compilot for years. It worked pretty well. After everybody else had Made for iPhone and likely made for Android, Phonak came out with their Classic Bluetooth. It also works pretty darned well. I suspect when they eventually enable Auracast in their hearing aids it too will work pretty well. When that happens and if it will include the Infinios is anybody’s guess.

I agree with you. I was a Oticon person for many years. My audiologist bluntly told me that the Phonak Spheres was what I needed, but gave me the option. At first I was against Phonak because I didn’t believe Bluetooth Classic was the way to go for hearing aids. But I have to say Bluetooth Classic is the right way for now. I have used le audio and tried on my Samsung S25FE with my Oticon INTENT1 aids. I say what is all the fuss about. For my needs Bluetooth Classic wins everytime.

I think the fuss is about public audio like theatres and such. A loop and coil are one solution but there seems to be some misunderstanding as to the ease of installation and use. is better than bluetooth classic because it’s a broadcast, not one-to-one. And it’s even easier to install.
Not needing to use clunky headphones with a little radio receiver pack is so old-school. (some of course say loop and coil are also old-school but it works..as do clunky headphones but the venue doesn’t need to invest in that gear and its wear and tear…a loop just sits there connected to an audio source… as does Auracast).

That is great when and if it ever comes this area. I live in a country area of small towns and small businesses. As for as movies go, today’s movies are trash. The older churches in this area have almost perfect acoustics and don’t even need sound systems. That also goes for the live theaters in the area. It all depends on what you need. My feeling is this. The industry is continuing to push great new products that aren’t really needed for everyday life. And one day when you get old enough and living on a retirement income you will understand.

It’s the same for all audio systems…does the venue have it. Few went with a loop. Still as few have installed .

I don’t use bluetooth very much either connecting to the car or streaming audio but it’s nice to have. I would be the same with Auracast. If I need to do something with my hands when on the phone then it’s nice to use the aids for bluetooth and not hold the phone to my ear like normal people. And I don’t like (or struggle with) the sound from using the speakerphone.

I don’t think all participants here except you are young pups. :slight_smile: Finally deciding to get hearing aids is generally with age-related hearing loss. Generally.

My hearing loss is military service related. I am almost 79. Been wearing aids for 21 years. I actually just made a career change when I first started wearing aids. I retired as an IT professional/electronic engineer. I got my MCSE at age 50. I also have collected over my lifetime almost 600 college credits. And no I never got a degree because I didn’t want to be forced into being a manager

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In reply to @cvkemp

Phonak isn’t doing anything with for the time being. I personally attended a Sonova meeting where this was confirmed. They have their own Roger Direct Streaming. And, as far as I understand, they aren’t going to support it for the time being either.

I believe that the new standard for hearing aid devices and phone companies will go in to place the last I heard in 2027 will be le audio, and probably . All that means is that newly designed devices after that date will have to use that new standard.

I was hoping the same, but the people I spoke to at the Sonova conference told me they trusted in their own Roger Direct Streaming product and wouldn’t support . I’m not surprised that they sold Sennheiser as well.

Well here in the USA if it is mandated they will either meet the standard or not be able to sale their products in the USA.

Do the Sennheiser Rise support ? I mean do they have the radios inside waiting to be activated in a firmware update?

Nothing in the literature to say so but then I believe (possibly erroneously) that my KS10s support tinnitus masking if it were switched on - no reference to that in literature.

They are the same as the Phonak models so yes “ with ” ready..but you won’t be getting it anytime soon as far as Sonova is concerned.

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