Sorry to not be more responsive to the obvious concerns about the validity of the link I posted earlier. I thought it would be enough that the domain was phonak.com, which I myself think is a more trustworthy source than phonakindia.in
I will try to keep the links updated for new users if I can, as I expect they will become invalid with future updates.
Brio adjustments can only be done with the software they provide to Costco. It isn’t floating around the Net.
Hi KenP,
Final proof that a Brio can indeed be programmed using Phonak’s standard Target Software, in this case v4.2xxx. Three screenshots show a Brio R-312T connecting.
I suspect Phonak did this to retain some kind of a good standing with the licensed hearing professional community that aren’t employed by Costco. So if a HA user purchases their aid at Costco and then after a while for whatever reason prefers their original or another audiologist, then they are free to have their HA adjusted by them. Of course that isn’t the standard service model, and their preferred audiologist would then charge by the hour, but at least it provides them that option.
Finally, if the Costco version of the Target S/W will not program a non-costco Phonak aid then it prevents a HA user from leaving their audiologist for a Costco store.
Hi Peter, yes I was wrong about the Phonak software. Seems that is the exception at Costco. I think the others have tried to differentiate the model sold. If the clinics could read Costco aids, they would know with certainty just what was included.
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Hi Peter, yes I was wrong about the Phonak software. Seems that is the exception at Costco. I think the others have tried to differentiate the model sold. If the clinics could read Costco aids, they would know with certainty just what was included.
This link was obtained by going to http://fittingsw-objects.phonak.com/142 (access was not denied). This page has a very long list of link information which contain the basic information to build the above link using the format in the links previously posted by @Enyan. The resulting link downloaded successfully.
I have Target Software v 4.3.1.23940 and the Brios aren’t listed in the Hearing Instruments section. Am I missing something? Or, can the info be transferred from the ? or …
I heard from Wire Weaver (sorry for my ignorance about forum procedures) and the answer is yes, the software will transfer the model, S/N etc of the when it connects. Good news!
FYI, when using a new or modified session, you have a choice to use data from the aids or session. It includes “everything” from options, , accessories, etc. I have accidentally deleted my session in the past and was able to get it completely back from the aids.
I am reading/searching and trying to decide for my first and I am between the Audeo B and the Oticon OPN … (more towards the OPN based on what I am reading).
I am reading/searching and trying to decide for my first HA and I am between the Audeo B and the Oticon OPN … (more towards the OPN based on what I am reading).
Hearing aid fitting software is for professionals. It is not meant to for patients, as fed up as you might be with your current audiologist. There are many many things that can cause serious damage to the hearing aid and your ears if everything is not done properly. You can very easily “brick” your hearing aid, rendering it completely useless. That’s a lot of money down the drain. It isn’t uncommon for a doctor to have to call a manufacturer if a technical issue arises and audiologists need to be fluent in every brand’s fitting software for the older and the newer hearing aids. My recommendation is to find another audiologist who deals mainly with Phonak. Someone who uses the software on a regular basis should have no trouble getting you set to where you want to be or maneuvering through the tabs to make adjustments. And try to confirm you are seeing an audiologist or at the very least a that had been trained by one. Too many times I have seen people with severe hearing loss with standard receivers and the wrong type of dome because they were fit by a HIS who didn’t really know what they were doing.
I wouldn’t have done this were it not for the fact that the link to Target on your (amazing and much appreciated!) mega-post appears to be broken. I’ve checked back there several times and I figured that the link had gone away (as seems to happen frequently with some of the fitting software). Also, I only have 5.0, and I know it’s been superseded and thus isn’t going to work for some people.
I also seem to have misunderstood your counsel elsewhere about making software available. I thought you were suggesting we use WeTransfer (or similar) for this purpose. And, I realize you’ve clarified this advice just this morning – that this technique is only reasonable when one is PM’ing someone in response to a direct request.
I really don’t want to mess up your system. I was around in the bad old days, before you took on these responsibilities, and I remember what it was like sifting through hundreds of posts – many or most with expired links – looking for software.
the problem of getting more qualified personnel will not be resolved anytime soon. the money is not going to be there. especially with new legislation, (relatively new), in that hearing aid / devices will now start being available over the counter. self testing software et al.
will WIRELESS EAR BUD distributors start making these new devices? Will they offer them at reasonable prices or will they take the hint from the MARKET AND CHARGE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, because that is the going rate?
if phonak sells devices for $5k, why should Bose sell them for under $1k?
bottom line is hearing aid manufacturers took advantage of us because of the MEDICAL CLASSIFICATION. They charged way over the actual cost to get 1000x profit because in their words, of how expensive it is to get medical / fda approvals and R&D costs.
if Bose and BEATS can start making and selling hearing aids, will they claim r&d COSTs are driving the costs highers? How come those R&D costs arent there for wireless ear buds?
Capitalism/free market/human nature…
and that nature is not to make money, but for us sheeple to mindlessly keep paying MEDICAL RATES FOR OVER PRICED STUFF…
*side note, I just had a heart attack about 4 months ago. got the bill, (thank you health insurance… ).
but, my insurance paid (without questioning) the hospital bill, which included $3500 for Rx while I was there. This wasnt for the new medications, or drugs used during the surgeries or anything else, EXCEPT FOR MY NORMAL ROUTINE MEDICATIONS. all the stuff I take at home every day, like my high blood pressure meds, my omeprezole for my GERD, etc.
my copays for those drugs average $30/month. all are generics. but, the hospital gets to charge more becuase… THEY ARE A HOSPITAL… $3500 for three days of RX that cost a regular consumer (without insurance, might pay $100 for a months supply.
now that my insurance paid $3500 for those 3 days, I hit a limit in my insurance coverage. which means I will need to meet/exceed $5000 out of pocket expense for Rx by the end of the year, before my insurance will continue to pay for my Rx.
the industry folk will refer to this as a DOUGHNUT HOLE in insurance coverage, ie a GAP in coverage.
I would normally never reach this DOUGHNUT HOLE as I dont use expensive Rx… but, be careful, if you all go to a hospital… SURPRISE!!!
Apologies for making my first post in what is a relatively old topic but I came across this via a Google search so it’s a topic I need some help on if anyone is able and willing.
I have some Phonak Nathos Auto UP aids and I have the Target 5.4.2 software which upgraded itself to 6 something. However, the software reports that it’s the wrong software for my aids. I was pretty sure it was the right software. Any advice on this? I do believe I’ve seen similar aids programed with Target 5.0.2 I think it was and with my software being newer, I would have thought it was still compatible (IE. Backwardly compatible) but it appears not.
So are there any programmers here who can help advise me what software I should be using for the Nathos Auto UP’s and if anyone has a link to offer, I’d be most grateful.
Is that what it is? For sure? I was under the impression they were not locked. None of my Siemens have ever been locked and I’ve always been able to program those OK. If I used the wrong software (ie. Connexx 8) on an aid that required Connexx 6, the software tells me so. The target software is simply telling me that the aid “cannot be programmed with this software” which seems to imply a similar message to that of Connexx software.
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