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Thanks for this Dani and others. Your comments are all really helpful.

I haven’t yet received the Icube II, as it’s sitting in Ebay’s global shipping centre. Will give some updates when I receive it.

Happy to report that I received the Icube ii and was able to install the accompanying Target 5.3 s/w and program my aids within a couple of hours.

As @Zebras indicated, it was able to pick up the stored from my aids.

I was able to make adjustments that has resulted in music sounding a lot better in programs other than the music program. By moving the low/med/high up basically. I was able to do this with confidence, because I have had a recent audiogram with the NHS for my other Oticon aids, where they performed a test and made similar adjustments.

Amazed at how easy the process has been, but would still need an audiologist to do a first fit. The icube ii is useful to do a bit more fine tuning without constantly going back for adjustments.

Well, I’m not sure about a few things - what and gain settings to put in, particularly for the speech in noise programs. I don’t know how to do an , so if my audiogram has changed that would be a concern. I get the other stuff… (I think !) like the settings for soundrelax and whistleblock etc etc.

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Obtain a copy of your most recent . Go to Client, enter name, age and create a client. Now click audiogram somewhere on the client and enter the audiogram. Then get your fitting settings based on that client/audiogram.

Try it with a make believe client, Joe Blow (after you have saved your original settings).

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In reply to @glucas

You can try AudiogramDirect as well. That’s what I use. Then I let the software set the and the gain settings.

I actually use less gain with AudiogramDirect then I do with my old NHS .

As I use less gain (my AudiogramDirect is better) I actually hear better in noise.

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Just another question for @Zebras or @pvc, how do you decide what to put into the settings for “Calm Situation”, “Comfort in Noise” and “Speech in Noise” ? Assuming that Calm Situation is decided from your , and you have have further adjusted those settings, does Target then decide what settings are then applicable for Comfort in Noise and Speech in Noise ? Or do you have to manually adjust both Comfort in Noise and Speech in Noise separately and they are not related. I am assuming for comfort in noise, the lows are reduced, whilst for Speech in Noise, the lows are reduced whilst the mid and highs are increased ? Or is there an option that I can select where it manages this ?

Thanks.

I just let the software decide. I’ve personally have never adjusted my SoundFlow programs.

The only other program I have is Roger / and mute. I’ve adjusted my Roger / FM by increasing the highs.

Have followed suggestions of @pvc and @Zebras. Managed to create a new client and enter my latest NHS via Audiogram Direct. Then after making adjustments and having to re-set up (after it lost contact) the compilot ii as an accessory and remote control, my hearing aids were effectively reprogrammed.

Cannot for the life of me understand how the default suggestions of Target were 10db lower than what I have it set to now. It was an absolute joke, nowhere near matching my loss.

Thanks to @pvc and @Zebras once again. :grinning:

Sometimes you don’t want to start at 100% gain level for a new hearing aid wearer;

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Oh yeah, I know.

I thought that maybe Target had defaulted your new test client to start off at 80% of gain at the Global tuning screen. I guess not.

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@glucas said:

Cannot for the life of me understand how the default suggestions of Target were 10db lower than what I have it set to now. It was an absolute joke, nowhere near matching my loss.

I use Adaptive Phonak Digital (Contrast) as default and had the same issue. Then I started from the beginning again and added 5dB to the main frequencies (500-2k) in my and let Target recalculate the fittings. This did the trick for me, so I had no need to fine tune the automatic program.

Hi Dani,

Thanks for your contribution. Yes, I have since tried the Direct, to try and more accurately measure/calibrate my audiogram (or at least the one that I input), and this was much better. in several places there were differences of around 5 to 10db. Once the recalculation was done, target was only around 3db different to what I have now. Music sounds great without it being overly loud, whereas before I had adjusted the - which was a mistake.

I will take a look. Thanks @Zebras

Am feeling pleased at this stage because I am feeling that so many issues have been resolved. I think with the Target 5.3, they must have updated the algorithms as well.

I have actually ordered a pair of Phonak Audeo V90 aids from Ebay. Have decided to take a look at aids, which I have never worn.

Have you been to costco yet ?

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