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In reply to @teejayess

@teejayess said:

Please don’t be discourage by a few thoughtless posts that did not understand that you were actually trying to provide useful information that you had encountered.

Speaking of people who are jumping to conclusions and making thoughtless posts…

@jim_lewis said:

Might be a trolling post as if you go to the Google Play Store…

A speculation is an “accusation?!” I think if you make uninformed posts as lgthunder6 did (she’s had her ’s ~a year, knows that they only work through a streamer, and should have known that the quoted website had a blatantly incorrect line in it)

@d_Wooluf said:

“Android and iPhone users can enjoy effortless connection to their phones, allowing them to answer phone calls directly in the OPN hearing aids”.

It’s weird.

that for just letting fly with such a post, people guessing what such a post might mean comes with the territory of making such off-the-mark posts. The question under discussion was, “Why in the world would anyone make such an incorrect post?!” I’m sorry. A very likely answer on many open forums would be “it might be (but not necessarily is) a trolling post.” I think accusing people of deliberately insulting you is just as incorrect as the intended or unintended implication of citing an erroneous website when a poster should know from their own experience that the website contains an erroneous and very misleading line.

Letting fly with any old post leads to posts by readers letting fly with speculations as d_wooluf said, what such a “weird” post could mean. The other interesting thing about lgthunder6’s follow-up compared to her original post is that her follow-up says the streamer worked so badly she stopped using and returned it but her initial post says the Android connection (whatever it is, relative to the erroneous linked website) is fantastic - the point of her original post - lgthunder6 is so happy with the Android connectivity?! That’s “weird,” too!

@jim_lewis, I suggest, respectfully, that sometimes the best course of action when faced with a set of probable misunderstandings is to give the other party the benefit of the doubt and just to let things slide. All I’ve seen here is a poor choice of words at most.

Different strokes for different people. I am into tech, have rooted many Android phones, fastidiously updated between many ROMs/phones/versions - and I have been through the android->iphone->android->iphone cycles. While the “ROM” thing sounds impressive to many, it can set you up for failure many times and requires too much commitment from you.

For me, I have finally figured out that I am staying with iPhone going forward and getting off the Google eco system. I have turned off lot of Google Apps, set maximum privacy settings and have started using other non Google applications. For , nothing like iPhones. It also helps that I am on the Apple ecosystem (my old MBPro is still going so strong that I have not upgraded in years).

So its just a series of decisions I made in the larger context that applies to me. Different strokes for different people. Find what you like and stay with it. We have other more important things in life to worry about.

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In reply to @d_Wooluf

@d_Wooluf said:

I suggest, respectfully, that sometimes the best course of action when faced with a set of probable misunderstandings is to give the other party the benefit of the doubt and just to let things slide. All I’ve seen here is a poor choice of words at most.

I agree totally. And I think that attitude should start at the level of anyone, including Igthunder6, responding to our speculative or baffled commentaries: “might be a trolling post” or your quote of the seriously erroneous line in the linked website with the your remark “weird” thrown in. In a way, the respondents to these remarks, in making a big deal of out of offhand comments with such remarks as: “Unfortunately, lately there are some who are quick to criticize new posters here, not having the tolerance, patience, and courtesy to treat those not “fully conversant” in proper use and terminology, with respect” is “trolling” - - seeking to make an inflated controversy out of something when there really is little of anything: just that curiously wrong post gets curiously speculative or baffled replies. …

@jim_lewis said:

In a way, the respondents to these remarks, in making a big deal of out of offhand comments with such remarks as:

I gave that post much thought, and I was trying to convey kindness to lgthunder6, and by her reply it succeeded.

I admit that I made a poor choice in wording, but my intent was to comfort someone rather than offend anyone else. I’m hypersensitive to others feeling having recently lost two close friends to suicide, feeling I did not pay enough attention to their spoken feelings. So I apologize for the poor wording.

Many years ago as a young man, under a very stressful situation, and old priest told me,
“It never hurts to be kind to someone”.

At the entrance to the community room in the senior housing where I live is this quote:
“Everyone is fighting a battle you know nothing about, be kind always”.

That is how I want to treat people, with kindness. My showing kindness to someone was not meant in any way to offend others.

In reply to @prodigyplace

I rarely use my Samsung 9 for calls and nobody calls me. They know if they wish to call, use my landline connection. I have KS7 but they don’t connect to my new Samsung. If I purchased a new dongle they would most likely connect, but the sound is pretty tinny so I don’t care. I like the fact that I can upgrade the memory with the Samsung. Just buy the chip. Mine came with tons of apps, like silly games that I will never play. All I have to do is go to settings and nuke the apps that I don’t want. Simple stuff. I almost took my Sammy back and bought an iphone, but I just couldn’t go there. I am used to Droid and Windows and that’s where I will remain.

I once contract a real nasty virus that took a long time to cure, so I bought a top of the line Apple with touch pad and fancy BT or cordless mouse. All the bells and whistles. My wife freaked out, may she rest in peace, and I took it back to the Apple store. The kid asked what was wrong with it. I told him ‘I don’t like it’. He was SHOCKED! He said he worked in that store and I was the first person who brought one back. I asked him if I got some kind of award. :slight_smile:

BlueCrab:
Nicely written! I felt largely the same way as you, but finally made the switch to Aople for a few reasons you didn’t mention:

  1. Facetime, and the fact that others in my family had iPhones.
  2. Photo quality: Just shot a video at 8 to 10 times zoom. Lots of obvious camera shake (as one might expect) but the playback was largely without shake!
  3. Music apps.
  4. The Apple watch. Series 4 is now dayiight readable - great on the golf course). Now has fall detection and EKG ability.
  5. Most good Android and Microsoft apps are available in iOS versions.
  6. Apple seems to put user privacy high on its list of importance.
  7. I have a smart home (lighting, spronklers, alarm, etc.) with Alexa, Google and Apple speaker links. The Apple home hub is by far the best for that purpose.

That said, I enjoyed your comments.

@DickK said:

Apple seems to put user privacy high on its list of importance.

I don’t believe that to be true of any of them Apple or Android. I recently had a friend that lost a hard drive and he had backed up everything except his email. He uses gmail and so contacted Google to see what they could do. They had everything from when he opened his account with them—many years–and were able to restore everything. If you’re using the internet and use any of the mail programs like GMail, social media like facebook or twitter or use a smart phone where all the apps are asking permission to access all your other apps you ain’t private. There is no such thing for the well connected individual.

Wow. Great explanation! I could have written an identical post (if I’d thought of it), because it encapsulates exactly how I feel about the subject.

I am alone in my family. I have never owned an iPhone. My wife, two daughters, and three or four grandchildren all do. My wife and I bought two of them Android phones and they ended up switching. I don’t know if any one of them has ever added an app to their iPhone – if they have, it’s very, very few.

The one thing you didn’t mention is cost. Every time I upgrade my phone, I find great discounts (the last one was half price) and free goodies that Samsung packages as an incentive. I acquired a headset, a 360-degree camera, and a fitness tracker that way. On the other hand, when I found my daughter had switched to an iPhone from the LG we had bought her, I was upset when I found out she had paid full price. When I looked into it, though, it was her only choice.

Back in the “old days,” when Apple came out with its fantastic desktops and laptops, the biggest reason I stuck with PCs was cost. Yes, the Apple products were reliable, but you paid for it.

I also have several hundred apps on my phone, many of them being utility apps that improve the way my phone works or ways I can use it.

I spent nearly three years looking for new hearing aids because I was waiting for Android compatibility and kept being disappointed by false promises. Just as I was about to finally give up and switch to Apple, I saw the announcement for the Phonak Audeo Marvel here. I was ecstatic, and I love how it’s working with my phone. Finally, no need to switch!

In reply to @Mark_Chambers

Sorry, but NOBODY does more to protect user privacy than Apple.
https://www.apple.com/privacy/approach-to-privacy/

And if you think your data is private in Gmail…think again. Google sells targeted advertising based on words found in your email messages. Apple’s iCloud mail accounts are private and secure, and can also be restored from a backup. Sure, social media accounts all have huge privacy issues, but those risks are irrespective of whether one uses the Android or Apple platforms.

Sure. And I’ve got a great deal on some Florida property. There is not a single stored system in this country that is immune to search and seizure. Nor is there a single internet connection that is absolutely private including Tor. When you put yourself online you’re open. Fact of life. If I was worried about people seeing what I say I sure as hell wouln’t be interacting on the internet.

Everything is relative. At this time, though, to the best of my knowledge, no company does more to proactively protect users’ privacy than Apple.

Google’s disclaimers:

“Our automated systems analyze your content (including emails) to provide you personally relevant product features, such as customized search results, tailored advertising, and spam and malware detection. This analysis occurs as the content is sent, received, and when it is stored.”

“When you upload, submit, store, send or receive content to or through our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content.”

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@jazzpete said:

I didn’t know there was a CPAP forum. Can you please post the contact info so I may join? Thanks!

Sure.

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Although the forum itself is not https, the login pages are secured with https. You will need a thick skin because the site is very lightly moderated.

The site itself is owned by cpap.com. The owners themselves are CPAP users.

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In reply to @cvkemp

So you don’t mind Apple making little tweaks, like slowing devices according to the age of their battery, or any one of a thousand other “tweaks” they’ve don over the years which have cause problems like connectivity, battery life, etc.?

Never had those issues, if you do the correct maintenance and use the correct chargers shouldn’t have any issues. I never had a android live longer than 24 months, and my first iPhone lasted 3 years before I decided that I wanted to upgrade, and then I was able to trade it in and pay for the taxes and the case I wanted. My wife can’t even get a penny for her one year old android, and it isn’t even able to be updated anymore. The only reason I upgraded was I needed a larger screen so I could read my emails.

Just want to observe that I’ve mostly bought Samsung devices since starting out with Windows Mobile back in 2003 (a Palm Pilot since 1997 before that). With the exception of one Samsung device that died (a Windows Mobile device back in the 2000’s), all my Samsung devices have survived many years. My Samsung Galaxy Nexus from 2011 (an Android device) is still going strong as is an original Nexus 7 tablet from 2012 (OEM?).

So I think it’s not right to blame the longevity of a device on the OS, unless you’re talking about battery lifespan. I also think longevity is a bit of a red herring. MOST users probably want to upgrade their phones after 2 to 3 years to get the latest and the greatest - I think if there were more demand for long-lasting devices, OEM’s would be under more pressure to build a phone that lasts and lasts. But until the phone culture changes for the great majority of users, an Android OEM by spending more money to build a really enduring phone is only pricing itself out of existence. Since Apple controls its hardware and software market and charges a premium (used to make 45% profit on each iPhone), it can control its destiny better than a bunch of Android phone makers struggling to make the cheapest and “best” device for the penny and still be around next year (Samsung can survive by selling Apple the top-of-the-line hardware to make iPhones, like the screens!).

From the ways I’ve seen people using phones, I would think the greatest influence on the longevity of a device is how a user treats it, not whether it’s iOS or Android, if we’re talking premium brands. I used to be very brutal to Samsung devices and all but one survived my torture tests!

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