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Widex introduces WIDEX MOMENT, the world’s first hearing aid to deliver a truly natural sound experience

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I understand your cynicism, but the science behind Moment is “sound” :smiley:

With all hearing aids there is a processing delay that can cause a perception of distortion when the sound from the aid hits the ear just after natural sound passing through an open dome.

Patients call this “distorted” or “robotic” or “crispy” (and many other things) as its not readily apparent what is actually accounting for the effect. Some of this perception may also be caused by the fact that first time users either aren’t accustomed any longer to what things actually sound like (since they’ve lost their hearing over time).

I do think that for , Moment will address some issues for people who might have either been dissatisfied with the sound quality or rejected the hearing aid altogether. I’ve listened to sound samples from Moment vs. other hearing aids (open fit) and do think there is a perceptible difference.

Chris

I think it is important to experience a product in order to judge performance. My Evokes are awesome and exceeded expectations, can’t wait to try the next product as I know they put an incredible amount of research into their technology. Widex was also set up by someone with hearing loss, personal experience and a passion for research into product development go a long way.

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These where one of the hearing aids I tried out. It was a good Hearing Aid. The monument setting is great but I am not convinced it is better for all types of hearing loss like I have. As my audiologists closed up the ear the moment advantage decreased she explained why and I understand that better. What it has that I really like is the tinnitus feature. The Zen music offered real relief for my tinnitus that can be very loud. I liked the choice of colors. There are some really neat ones. The one big problem I had was with the rechargeable model. It has to be plugged in all the time and there is no cover. As a result you can’t use a decedent to dry the hearing aid. This is important to me as I live in humid area. This is workable by a dryer that goes around the case and dries while charing. But this can’t be done when it has to be plugged in. The lack of stored charges really is a drawback. Sometimes I have to store and go. It be nice if the charger stored a charge. Now on the other hand the way it is setup charger wise is great if you have dexterity issues or are clumsy like me. It was really easy to place them in and get them out. Kinda of a trade off I would guess. I was really happy they choose li ion battery for the hearing aids. The remote feature was strange to me as it requires a device to be placed around it to remote program. Does anyone know if that has changed this? This was an added cost I did not like. Don’t get me wrong I really liked them and felt they where a good hearing aid with the machine learning, great app, and their ability to change automatically into different settings. There was a ton of value and a lot to like. They where unfortunately not quite the right fit compared to the set of hearing aids I ended up with in the area of improvement of hearing for my hearing lose. They where definitely a strong candidate and I would recommend a person look at them as a possibility. I would again in the future. The other thing is my audiologists said they where only made for iphone at the time but where suppose to change that with a future firmware update. Does anyone know if they did that yet? Thank you for sharing this information.

I got a Widex Moment 10 days ago. I don’t have anything to compare it to as it is my first . It’s been hard to adjust to it.

The SoundSense feature is cool and I can certainly see where AI will serve an important role in HA technology but the differences in quality right now are too subtle for me to notice.

I understand what you are talking about. If you are still in your trail period and not getting any hearing improvement from them then you might want to try another brand. My thinking is why spend thousands of dollars to get no benefit or to not have them working for you. All hearing Aids have there good points and not so good points. Depending on your hearing loss which are a diverse as people their my be a better fitting hearing aid for your hearing loss and what you would like. If you only had them a few days talk it over with your audiologists about what is hard to adjust too. See if they can help you. I had to try a few different brands to find one that worked with my hearing loss best. I wish you the best of luck.

I’ve been wearing Moments since the beginning of the pandemic. I wore Evokes before. There’s a setting on the app called “PureSound”. It is so amazing. Everything sounds perfectly natural to me for the first time in so long!! I haven’t even seen my audi yet for a personalized adjustment and I love them. I got in the stupid shower with them a couple days ago. Went to wash my hair and felt them. Immediately pulled them off and towel dried them. When I got out I put them in but they sounded dead. I just put them in the charger which lit up. Next morning, working fine. You can also read my earlier post about losing one for a week until it was found by someone outside in a gravel/dirt driveway. It had rained during that week and it had probably been run over cause it had some scars. I put it on the charger which lit up and next morning, it was working just fine. I find these things are nearly bullet proof as I continue to abuse them in different ways!

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I am glad they worked so well for you they did not work so well for my hearing loss and me. It was a shame as they had a lot to like. Like the tinnitus setting, Machine learning. They where really good. But overall it was not a good fit for my hearing loss and me. My audiologists seemed to think the moment was more for someone who had milder hearing loss then my hearing loss is. Personally I didn’t care as I was not getting hearing benefit form them. I feel that if you are paying for hearing aids they need to give you a hearing benefit. That is their job after all. That’s okay as hearing loss is as diverse as people. What works for one does not work for all. That is why I understand people having different experiences with hearing aids. I came here to see if others had a similar experience and features of the hearing aid. There was a lot to like. I wish you the best with your hearing aids and have a great day.

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Hi again, finally arrived !! I am writing now, after about a week with the Moment. (I have mind 220 CICnow best ever)
I’m using only the music program :
First - Give me 1 Mind 220 for 10 Moment’s … But :
1.Understanding speech: Very good naturally sound (Universal mode is better)
2.My own voice: Sound really good for me natural sound but there’s kind of volume limiter - I can shout without really hearing how loud is it.
3.Music at home/Car via Spotify (serious receiver and speakers ) : Sound very good deep bass - love it! but again, the limiter or compression don’t know … Moment will eat any distortion, growling you’ll provide.
4. Playing with acoustic guitar: For the first time, I can hear my Martin bell like it should do - Love it guitar sound nice and clear.
5.Acoustic with singing: Bad. It’s me or the guitar, not both… When I start to sing - the guitar volume turns down by half, my voice limiter starts his job - Bummer.
6. Electric guitar with looper machine- Moment channels start to lose it ups and downs with no control - Moment cant handle it Bummer 2

Anyone here had the volume limiter experience? and know if it can be solved?
I’ll see my audi tomorrow - I’ll update
Bottom line - Very good product. Most of the day I forget that it on me.
I keep my golden mind 220 for jam sessions :slight_smile:

In reply to @TraderGary

where is your YouTube channels I’ll watch. :slight_smile: I’m not a musician but try to enjoy music so I’m always curious which sound better for live music and streaming. I’ll be interested to see if you the Widex Moments and if the “Puresound” makes a difference. I am not looking at Widex Moments or Phonak Paradise models. I’m in the Apple world so I’m OK with iphone only and I doubt I would stream from my TV. The appeal of the Phonaks to me right now is water resistance and speech enhancement but I wonder if a well fitted HA would be good for quiet times with soft spoken people which I can’t hear with my current HAs.

I work in NYC so taking the subway requires noise canceling or isolating headphones because even turning the mikes off the trains are to loud to hear streaming well.

Will Widex Moment get the version?

I have severe hearing loss and audiologists recommend BTE to me. i now have a Phonak Naida q50 and my plan is to switch to Widex Moment, of course after I try out the hearing aids.

At widex Moment, I liked the “sound sense learn” option the most.
At first I will adjust the programs, the conditions I am in, etc. in the application on the smartphone, and later will be able to recognize the conditions I am in and even determine where I am via a GPS location to turn on a certain program. As far as I can see, no device in the competition offers that yet.
Another thing I like is the more advanced app, which gives me more options around adjusting the sound. I’ve always been looking for that, I’ve often been in conditions where it’s hard to understand speech and where I’d like to adjust the HA to suit me.

By the way, I’ll ask, does Widex still use hearing aids with a 675 battery? I didn’t notice Evoke using it.

Thanks in advance.

Hi, I am interested if any sound engineer, audiophile or musician has experience with the Widex Moment, particularly in PureSound mode. Is it marketing hype or does the latency / delay reduction sound appreciably better with music for those of us with mild hearing loss using open domes?

I currently use Phonak Marvel (which is just passable but not great with music - which I think is partially due to the smearing of the transients due to the processing delay) and am considering if it is worth a trial of the Widex Moments.

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@markoo355 said:

determine where I am via a GPS location to turn on a certain program. As far as I can see, no device in the competition offers that yet.

I think I saw something like that mentioned somewhere else also. Resound or starkey. :thinking:

But not whole teaching experience, that’s still widex-only afaik.

@kburson21 said:

if it is worth a trial of the Widex Moments.

If what you tried so far is just passable, trying completely different approach definitely seems worth testing.

In reply to @kburson21

Pro pianist here. I’m using the Moment 440 rechargeable . I can’t hear any latency whatsoever. Not in any of the modes. “Pure”, from what I can tell, uses just one set of the microphones. So music is theoretically less directional but it sounds great to me. The only other I’ve used to compare them with were from 10 years ago when latency was extremely bad and noticeable. I’m also very sensitive to latency especially when playing really fast music on the piano. I can hear when latency makes a note sound like it’s being played behind. (Not to toot my own horn but I’m talking about really fast piano playing :))

If you notice strangeness with the Phonak I’d recommend the Widex because I haven’t heard anything weird wearing them while playing or listening to music aside from when I was still dialing in my fitting and frequency adjustments. It’s been fun experimenting with different uses for the different microphones and the vast features. I’ve got 5 regular programs set up for normal use, quiet speech, natural sounding nature and urban conditions (Pure), music (piano) playing, and concert settings (with wind noise reduction, speech enhancements). And all 5 programs sound great when playing or listening to music

In reply to @Blacky

In 2019, Widex and Sivantos merged as one company under the new name “WS AUDIOLOGY”. Of course the brands widex, signia etc will still exist separately. But it’s interesting for the reason that it will share technology. The development of new technologies costs money, and even with that, the price of hearing aids rises. Due to this merger, prices will certainly be lower and it is possible that the new Widex and of course Signia, etc. will bring progress. So I’m looking forward to it. What bothers me the most as a customer when they raise the price is that it’s hard for me to afford some better options.
A friend of mine recently inquired about Bernafon Appliances, and their best model costs twice as much as the Widex moment. And it brings nothing better than Widex Moment.

I think “in general,” the prices of all major hearing aid manufacturers are very similar. I get this impression from looking at online prices. However, an individual practice may get very different prices from different manufacturers. I’m guessing the variation would depend largely on number of instruments sold, but could imagine a variety of reasons. I too would assume that Widex and Sivantos will be sharing technology, but so far haven’t seen any evidence of that. I am not optimistic about them dropping prices.

In reply to @dennish

I asked my audioligits if I can play piano with my new hearing aids? she said could you play before. :slight_smile: just kidding. Hmm can you toot your own horn or you only play piano. :slight_smile:

Interesting, I’m going to ask for natural sounding nature. In my quiet home I use music program a lot even though I can hear my noisy NVR and the heat when winter comes along. I only play the stereo but it definitely sounds better then my 6 year old Widex did. I’ve tried experimenting with the volume of the mics to volume of stereo ratio and can get a fuller sound when lowering the mics. I can’t sure pure since my hearing loss is across all frequencies not just the highs.

In reply to @dennish

This is some great information as I’m currently looking at the Moment product, specifically the 330. Did you try the 330 or did you go right to the 440? I ask as I’m wondering if the cost difference is really worth the difference in performance. It seems they highlight the wind noise reduction on the 440 and I’m not sure it’s something I really need given the cost difference.

Thanks!

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