Oticon more - BLE Auidio LC3 support

Pixel 4a, Android 12:

@Volusiano said:

The BLE LC3 support, if the ConnectClip is designed to provide BLE LC3 support after all in the future, is not necessarily going to make the ConnectClip battery last longer. The ConnectClip is already in a form/shape where Oticon can easily double the size of its battery if it wants to, to increase the battery life. It is a design choice to go with the battery size they currently use, because they probably deem it adequate for most users’ application (although not necessarily for your specific application). Even if Oticon chooses to support BLE LC3 later, that doesn’t automatically guarantee that they’ll design a ConnectClip that will last all day.

I am hoping that More 1 itself would get BLE support so that ConnectClip could be removed. That would require having smartphone and laptop with BLE as well.

Maybe in the future but I don’t see it happening in the next year to two years. Personally I don’t mind the connect clip. But I don’t use it all day every day. It is there and available for me when I do need it.

I’d hazard that the 44.1 KHz rate is a ‘target’ rate too. You know when your TV/IPad is streaming a program and then your connection gets a bit ropey - the service gets downsampled pretty quickly. ‘Dynamic’ must appear in the standard somewhere.

On the ‘Sound Quality’ issue, I think you’re all ignoring the issue of impedance (mis-)matching in the canal which will have way more effect on the perception of bass than you realise; even the tiniest of vents rolls the low end right off. Also if you really think that someone with a damaged Cochlea is going to actually appreciate much refinement of a boosted 10KHZ+ band; then I have some expensive HDMI leads to sell you……

I’m not saying that manufacturers shouldn’t strive to make hearing aids to sound like the stereo in a Mercedes S-Class, but as noted above; the battery power trade-off is a significant price to pay.

A minor side note too: while most manufacturers use fairly common receivers, they will potentially be using their own ‘flavour’. With Knowles receivers there is an alphanumeric description: the first two letters are the model series designation, the next four numbers are the individual model number and the subsequent suffix indicates a potentially non-standard port/coil/response etc. It will be down to the engineering request from the ‘Big Six’ as to how they want that ‘flavour’ to go.

conclusions:

1. MFI will support hands free this month: Latest Oticon Hearing Aids Support 2-Way Hands-Free Streaming for iPhone and iPad2
   unfortunately I am android user. Hands free are not so big deal for me anyway.

2. More probably will not support BLE Audio, as somebody here mentioned that platform is 2 years old. Also standard is not set yet, so we are probably looking for newer next generation hardware and are couple of years away from it

3. One alternative I found for having conference on my laptop without clip connect is to stream audio from desktop to my phone. I used soundwire server (it’s free) but there are alternatives. Downside is additional latency of about 600ms. So it is acceptable alternative when I forget clip connect, battery is empty or CC causing issues. It is one way streaming from laptop to smartphone and then to More. Laptop microphone is being used.

Jeff Solum from Starkey says hearing aids will be hardware ready for LC3 in 2023 and he doesn’t expect audio sharing capabilities to hit the industry until 2024. Sounds like to me BLE LC3 is going to take new hearing aids.

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We can only hope so.

Well that sucks. If I am in a noisy environment using the hearing aid mic more than likely will not be optimal and as a lefty using the right hearing aid mic isn’t optimal either

so, is Oticon More support LE Bluetooth ?

Yes Oticon aids are LE Bluetooth but not the new LE audio. Oticon aids work only with iOS deand Android ASAH devices. You will need the connect clip to connect every other Bluetooth device. To my knowledge only Phonak aids just classic Bluetooth

I trot this little factoid out every so often. When the Mores were released, the release material included the statement that they were ready for LE Audio- a claim that has not been repeated since. What could you do with this? I don’t know.

@d_Wooluf said:

ready for LE Audio

if someone could tell what version of Bluetooth is More using, we will figure out

Hearing aid manufacturers in general have not been good at keeping their word. Oticon initially promised a ConnectClip very soon and it took well over a year to show up. Both Resound and Oticon promised LE Audio compatibility in earlier products and then reneged… There are no advantages to be a “bleeding edge” consumer other than being able to show up here and tell us it doesn’t work.

Finding Bluetooth version is easy on Bluetooth.com6 Oticon More uses BT 5.1 so definitely not LE Audio compatible (wirhout firmware upgrades) but even if it were BT 5.2 or greater is no guarantee that it is LE Audio compatible.