Now, I understand….. Roger On, WOW factor!

I don’t know for sure yet, but suspect the following. When the VA set up the contract for the Marvels, they didn’t include Roger receivers. So, in order to make the Marvels work with the On, they would have to install Roger receivers. This is apparently something they do not want to do. It might be cheaper for them to just replace the Marvels with Paradise. That would go a long way toward understanding why the Audiologist said that Marvels aren’t compatible with the On. Out of the box, they aren’t. If the VA’s contract for the Paradise does include Roger receivers as standard, that would explain it. I know for a fact that my Marvels don’t work with any Roger devices without a Roger Hearlink. I have high hopes for the Roger On.

Thank you for your interpretation John…. At some point alongside the VA contract with Sonova/Phonak, the licenses might have been included in their VA contract? Both Marvel & Paradise aids have built-in Roger receivers, but they have to be activated via a piece of equipment called a “Roger X Installer”(I have this RXI) I am able to transfer my “Roger X Receiver Licenses” between 3 sets of aids, it usually takes about 5 minutes to uninstall from 1 set of aids, and reinstall the licenses into a different set, it sounds like a complicated process, but it is fairly simple in practice…. The reason I think the VA now pre-install the licenses, is another member of this forum assumed, all Marvel/Paradise aids had the licenses, he/she had bought several pairs of Marvel aids 2nd hand via eBay, and they all worked with their Roger devices, when I asked if they were Ex-VA aids, the the OP said, they believed they were all sold by VA Vet’s, hence their assumption that all Marvel & Paradise just worked with all Roger devices, they do in theory, but in practice, the licenses have to be installed to activate the built-in receivers…. Apologies for the long winded explanation! Cheers Kev

Hi @kevels55 I wonder if you have a roger table mic and does it offer any benefit over the roger on?
Also, you’ve mentioned that the select is slightly better for you than the roger on, if that’s correct, do you think it is worth having both or one will suffice?
Thank you

I’m sure kevels will answer you but I’ll chip in too

The real advantage on the On, and the roger pen, is the narrow band of the pointing mode. You can point at a specific person and zoom in on what they are saying. The select has a system for selecting a specific microphone on the array so you can kind of point, I often use it that way, but it is tricky and more awkward then pointing with the On or pen.

I have 2 Table Mics and they are great for business conferences or large dinner parties but no pointing. They are big and powerful and the batteries last all day but they are not as versatile as the others.

It is also possible to use lots of different Roger devices together and at the same time but that is super tricky and complicated.

@Baltazard said:

do I need to get my brother a select or/and table mic,

The On and Select can’t both be used as on a table tho. You would have to get a Table Mic.

Thank you @Baltazard for your question’s, been out playing a 8 Ball pool competition…. I think if given the choice between Roger On & Roger Select, I would choose Roger Select, if I was forced to pick just one…. In a 1 on 1 situation, Roger On for me wins hands down, especially in a car! But at the dinner table, again for me it’s the Roger Select seems to handle that situation better, both are excellent, but it’s all down to personally preferences, unfortunately at the moment, I don’t have Table Mic 2, but we are working on it Thank you @Psych1 & @Zebras for your input

@kevels55 said:

I could hear every word, syllable, annunciation, and something else, a very slight lisp in her voice, I had never noticed that before…. Around the store, talking through her mask, was crystal clear hearing for me, from 10, 20 or even 40 feet away, Elspeth is an extremely good at annunciation (slight lisp or not) being a former, Social Worker for the Deaf…. All in all, I am highly impressed with the Roger On

That is so good. To be able to hear those tiny sounds for the first time, must have felt pretty good. I’ve been thinking about getting something like that, particularly for office use or catching up with people. I might look into that more now

I think it might be called Roger MyLink?

I have Stylettos AX, they don’t have telecoil AFAIK. I’d rather not use telecoil anyway, due to sound quality loss.

No @MDB , I have one, a type (03) I checked just now, it’s called a Roger NeckLoop… Cheers Kev

@kevels55 Not sure if you or anyone on this forum have done this before:
I wonder if one could transfer licenses from Roger X to Roger On or Roger Select (not the iN version)?
Also, apart from Roger installer, is there another method of transferring the Roger X licenses to the HA?
Thank you

Sorry for the delayed reply… No, what you ask, I don’t believe it is possible! I think the whole idea of the licenses, is in essence, fixed to the 2 separate methods, you either transfer the licenses from the “Roger On In”, to the hearing aids, or transfer them back to the “On In”, the plain Roger On, probably cannot facilitate this, it may not have the memory or it is more likely to have different firmware, hence the separate Roger Installer, to transfer the licenses to the aids, or back to the Roger X receivers, a pain in the butt, but it is what it is, and Sonova likes to milk the end user fairly dry!!! Apologies for not being more helpful… Cheers Kev

@Baltazard said:

Roger Select (not the iN version)?

A none iN versión doesn’t have the hole to poke the pin in to transfer the licenses. So you could say the iN version casing is different as well.

Also the iN Select and iN Pen doesn’t have Bluetooth where the normal Select and Pen does.

This is a Select iN. The blue circle is a light. The red circle is where the pin goes, to press the internal button, I guess you could call it.

Not being the iN, these features won’t be there.

@kevels55 said:

I found the Touchscreen brilliant as a “plug in”, when using my iPad or iMac

This is what I like about the Table Mic II, it’s also plug and play.
None of these docking stations or difficult to get cables.