Your issue with quaver or flutter is AKA TTTF (Talking Through The Fan) effect.
As mentioned by others, the Oticon More has the ability to turn off feedback management in the Automatics Screen, as shown above in figure 3. (Thanks @e1405 )You need it off for Music!
Turning down the gain at higher frequencies won’t make a difference with your loss. All you’d be hearing is noise, not pure tones if set too high.
Be sure your fitter understands that they should UNLINK the MyMusic Program before doing any changes, so nothing is affected in your General program.
Be sure to have them run the Feedback Test, as well.
Ultimately, taking your axe to your appointment will yield the best results, so have a good fitting!
This is always off by default in the music program, of course if your adding a new “music” program using custom settings them you’ll need to manually turn off.
Actually, Oticon sets it at Low by default for MyMusic.
Been dere, done dat!
We may have to crank the gain down so much that the hearing aid becomes totally ineffective, rendering the exercise pointless. But we’ll give it try: we might be pleasantly surprised.
I am just guessing here but maybe those high frequencies won’t be as important as low and mids for a music program dedicated to acoustic guitars…
This is always off by default in the music program, of course if your adding a new “music” program using custom settings them you’ll need to manually turn off.
I know this is an old topic but I’m sure it’s still an issue with many musicians even today. I’ve tried a lot of suggested approaches and lately I started to learn to play of riffs in Melissa I kept thinking my guitar is either out of tune or the youtube video is a least a half step out. The notes just did not sound right even with my custom music program. I also have a modified hifi program for my 9030 Philips that I have not done much work with so this is a summary of what I found I needed to do today to get the hifi program to work with my ears. I’m posting this in the event this helps others…I hope that’s true. It would take a Costco fitter months to arrive at what I found in a matter of a half hr of iterations at home. I’m pretty happy with the results although probably still not optimal but it works for me.
Since I’ve been doing some DIY with my 9030 Philips hearing aids in regards to live guitar playing I would like to describe what I had to do today with about 4-5 adjustments to get the hifi music program to NOT sound warbling, distorted and shrill when playing very high frequency notes. Your results will probably vary but this took a lot of gain reduction to work right for me. I used the gain lowering I needed in the app to guide me in the HearSuite adjustment software.
The Hifi program has medium feedback control and I left that in for now but I probably don’t need it anymore with the reductions I’ve made. The standard hifi program really boosts low and high frequency gains a lot over the general program and for me any music, streaming or live is way too tinny and very shrill sounding with the stock hifi program.
I did turn off the soft noise and wind noise controls and all other noise features are already turned off in the std hifi program. I lowered 3k-8k by a whopping 14 ! I didn’t do this all at once and only tried 6 dB and found 14 dB to be what was needed for my ears and electric guitar. But I still had some sourness in the very high notes (12th fret and above) so I further lowered 1.5k to 2.5 k by 3 dB. And I still had to lower the gain in the app by one step which is -2.5 dB. Of course this is not great for speech but really good for my electric guitar playing and much better than turning the hearing aids off which is like a pillow over my ears. I have a typical cookie cutter loss moderate to bordering on severe at the bottom (-65-70dB) and use the 85 receiver with bass open domes.
I have tried other recommended approaches involving starting with the speech in noise program and playing with compression ratios but this hifi program seems to work and still boost the low to mid frequencies a bit. I have hyperacusis and so I might be an outlier compared to others but this is sort of effort it takes to get HA to work well for musicians, lots of iterative efforts. Don’t give up. I’m considering Widex moments but also want to look at the new Philips 9050’s coming out. I’m not sure with my loss that the 0.5 msec of the Widex will help enough for me and the 9050 is a brand new chip. Even the 9040’s are a bit better for noise control than my 9030 and the 9050 is said to handle artifact noise caused by movement and wind much better, although the body is also a bit thicker I’m told.
Thanks I did research those previously. I thought I had a couple of good programs and it wasn’t until I decided to take some guitar lessons to be able to play more solos and worked on learning Melissa that I found my mods fell apart at the really higher frequency vibrato and bends of Melissa. And I bought a new PRS SE “Pauls’s Guitar” model that might have brought this out a bit too. I’m sure none of this is ideal but I made big effort to get close and it took about 5 iterations with HearingSuite software to arrive at my changes. I think there is a fine line where the notes gets sweeter and then suddenly just fall apart in pitch and shrillness and become distorted. The trick is to get pretty close to that point with some margin to actually improve the sound of a live instrument over no without overdriving things. Setting up the guitar, amp, etc. requires that I come close to hearing what others are hearing but never quite sure about that, lol. The general program is absolutely horrible for live guitar playing for me and I suspect I could improve it a bit for speech with similar but much smaller reductions in high frequency gains. Save that work for another day, lol.
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