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A friend is interested in purchasing KS10s at Costco. However, they want him to ‘stay put’ for six months so the same fitter can make adjustments as needed. This is incompatible with his travel schedule, so I’d like to set him up for self programming.

Pardon the newbie questions, but I can’t find reliable info on the Phonak equivalent (there are several ‘Paradise’ series and several levels in each series). Which is the matching model? I assume that the Phonak Target software will work, but is a hardware interface also required (or is it all done over Bluetooth)?

Thanks in advance for any guidance.

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Yes a hearing aid programming device is required.

I’m seeing mixed signals on this. There are several documents suggesting that Noahlink Wireless is suitable. Is that correct? But, I also found

which operates without any hardware (other than a smartphone and app) at the hearing aid location. Can this avoid the need for a proprietary programming device?

Also, if the aids are initially programmed by a professional fitter, can Target download the current configuration from the aids, so incremental adjustments can be made, without having to start from scratch?

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Use the Forum Search for Remote fitting and that should give you insight on that subject. It’s not a simple and straight forward method for bypassing programming requirements.

Read a School PDF file named (02 How to Program Your Hearing Aids) for instructions about how to save your original professional settings.

The KS-10 is based on Paradise, not Marvel. It is rechargeable and the noahlink wireless is appropriate.

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Yep, Paradise. My Bad, I was in a heck of a hurry. Same section in the fitting chart specs.

If Target is similar to Smartfit when first connecting the program to the aids (using a Noahlink Wireless) it “finds” your aids automatically and labels them with their correct model number.
And, yes, you can upload the current settings, lable them as such, and save those adjustments. Then you can always revert back to this saved setting.
Also, consider that those aids and Costco offer remote adjustments as long as you have a stable internet connection.

Trying to self program the KS 10 using Target V7.3.1 and iCube II. Target recognizes the iCube II with a USB cable, but will not detect the KS 10 instruments. I have the instruments turned on and placed on a table with the loop surrounding them. Is this not a compatible setup or am I doing something wrong?

Yes definitely you need the Noahlink wireless for kS10, there’s a drop down menu at the very top of target that you use to determine and then change the programming device.
Noahlink wireless devices are freely available on eBay.

Interesting question, I don’t know. I don’t have a KS10.

I don’t even have a Phonak Audéo P/Paradise. Not that the Phonak Phonak Audéo P/Paradise model would prove anything because it may have some fitting software differences versus the Costco KS10 model.

btw> and changing the subject :wink:; Noone seems overly concerned yet about what happens when the battery life expires in these sealed-rechargeable hearing aids? After that it’s a brick! Right? Unless some bright DIYer knows how to replace the batteries?

Here’s an excerpt from a School PDF file named (05 Buying Rechargeable Hearing Aids);

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Well, I’m concerned. I’d take a replaceable battery model over the rechargeable any day, but I wasn’t given a choice. I’ve been self-programming for a decade - ever since my first pair of America Hears aids - then Bernafon - then Phonak. Each time I’ve been able to reduce or eliminate the tinnitus by adjusting the frequency response characteristic (Phonak actually has a tinnitus function that worked very well for my individual case).
Much of the self-programming access thanks to your contributions over the years, PVC. Thanks.

Yes getting a Noahlink wireless is a good idea, as this will allow you to pick and choose brands/models in the future, it’s the industry standard for now at least, as a side note, I just read on another thread that Phonaks new platform will be rechargeable only, disappointing if true.

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