Skip to content
HearingTracker
Log in

IIC Choice - Starkey Evolv 2400 IIC vs Phonak Virto P90 Titanium

59 replies5.9k viewsLast reply

Jump
Link to this topic
Reply

Hi @Neville thanks for the info re curving the antenna with heat - will wait until I get mine and see how far they stick out.

Dumb question - what sort of heat should be used and how would you apply it? By doing this it wouldn’t cause damage to the antennas (if done gently and properly), however what about the warranty side of things?

Thank you!

In reply to @richardsondc

@richardsondc said:

Stricly for comparing the retention string/fishline thingy. This is how invisible my Eargo is with the string curled into my lobe. Zoom in and maybe you will see it. With the Starkey and Virto units, if you heat and curl it, can you get it to lay like this?

Can’t even see it! When I tried the Silk X the cord was pretty much invisible like this.

@Richierich1968 said:

will definitely take all of this into consideration if I go the IIC route.

Your loss is less good for / because of your good lows. You might want to at least trial a so that you know what you could be missing re: sound quality by choosing an IIC.

@Neville said:

Your loss is less good for IICs/CICs because of your good lows. You might want to at least trial a RIC so that you know what you could be missing re: sound quality by choosing an IIC.

Thanks again @Neville - will ask about this next time I see my audi.

Cheers,
Richard

Not sure what a experience adds to this thread, sorry. I’m specifically being very clear that I want an and looking for user experiences on those.

Anyway, impressions now taken, and Phonaks ordered.
Apparently there’s only one titanium 3D printer and that’s in Vietnam - so an expected 3 week wait now.

@auGMS said:

Anyway, impressions now taken, and Phonaks ordered.
Apparently there’s only one titanium 3D printer and that’s in Vietnam - so an expected 3 week wait now.

The impressions for my trial Starkey 2400 were taken just over 2 weeks ago and won’t be here until early next week. Not sure where in the world they were sent to or if they are being done locally.

Great that you are getting the Phonaks - I’d really love to hear your thoughts on them once you receive them.

In reply to @auGMS

@auGMS said:

Anyway, impressions now taken, and Phonaks ordered.
Apparently there’s only one titanium 3D printer and that’s in Vietnam - so an expected 3 week wait now

Hi @auGMS,

Just an update for you - it seems either my audi or Starkey screwed up and I ended up with a trial pair of Evolv 2400 NW instead of the as I had discussed with him. I got these today.

I’ve updated my other post with my experience thus far with the IIC, so hopefully you’ll find it of use. I will endeavor to update as much as possible over the next 2 weeks before I go back for my next adjustment.

Very keen to hear of your experience with the Phonaks when you get them.

Cheers,
Richard

I’ve been using the Phonak ’s for about 18 months. I tried Oticon’s first and they were not working for me, so then tried the Phonak’s, which worked much better. I wear them about 12 hours each day and forget they’re there most of the time. Not one person has ever noticed them before. They work well in all but extremely noisy environments, in which I usually just remove them. Are they perfect, no. I still have to use the buttons occasionally to increase volume/change programs, but I’m impressed by the technology crammed into that small of a unit and overall they work for me.

Thanks. I really like mine. Now i have tweaked them myself and changed to prescription, they’re more than good enough. I don’t change programs at all as I find the automatic program change works quite well in most environments.

In reply to @Richierich1968

Sorry to jump into this thread more than a year later, but I was just given these 2 models as my choices for ’s and trying to do research on them. This thread came up in my google search and is exactly what I’m looking for, so I signed up for this forum.

I’ve previously had Phonak B50 and then B70 IIC’s over the past roughly 6 years, but this time (with a new audiologist), I was offered these 2 choices.

Specifically curious if @auGMS stuck with the Phonak and if @Richierich1968 stuck with the Starkey? And how have they been?

Just recently saw a review article on Forbes site listing best invisible hearing aids and they had Starkey rated much higher than Phonak.

Also curious about warranties. I’ve been lucky to have a couple of fixes of broken and/or replacement of lost ’s over the years from Phonak - which I believe has a 3 year warranty. I’m also thinking the titanium would be more durable and may have avoided the 2 times in the past 5-6 years I had one crack.

I haven’t necessarily had any issues with my previous Phonak, but the Forbes ratings made me interested in trying the Starkey.

If anyone does see this after all this time, would love to hear any feedback specific to this question…don’t want to resurface the discussion or the vanity discussion.

Thanks.

Hi there @dpnintn, and welcome!

After trialling about 5 or 6 different makes and models, I ended up going with the Phonak Virto P90-312.

Initially, discretion was the most important factor for me - hence going for and then . I’m struggling to remember all of the details as it was a year ago now, but as I recall the Starkey IIC was pretty basic (as one would expect from a device so small). They were totally invisible but I really struggled with hearing speech with them, no matter how many adjustments were made - I could hear every other sound, but speech was impossible even with the person standing directly in front of me 1m away. The Starkey T2 app for adjusting program/volume was very hit and miss as well. I didn’t get to trial the Phonak Virto Titanium as it was going to take a while to manufacture and the audi kind of talked me out of it due to the expense.

As I was trying all the different , I came to realize that functionality was edging much further ahead in the way of importance for me. I spend quite a bit of time on the phone and on Teams meetings, so connectivity is important, as well as being able to change programs discreetly thru an app rather than holding my phone up to each ear while it played tones to adjust the program/volume - which was impractical in a noisy environment. From here, I wanted to trial the Starkey CIC, but as mentioned the ridiculously long antenna was a deal breaker (I see now they have changed this model to have curved antennas…), so I instead tried the Starkey . The sound was natural and good, but they are Made for iPhone (MFI) so they will only connect to one device at a time (and not my laptop) - so they quickly got eliminated.

I trialled the Phonak Virto P90 and although they are bigger than I would like (but smaller than the Starkey ITC), they allow me to connect to my personal cellphone, my work cell, and my laptop (only 2 can be paired at a time though). I ended up settling on these due in part to the functionality, but also because my audiologist chain offers a “pay as you go” subscription service on Phonak for $100 a month with a free upgrade every 3 years. In addition, the New Zealand government subsidizes the cost of my HAs to the tune of about 70% due to my loss being work related from many years ago, so I didn’t have to shell out anything upfront.

On the warranty side of things, I haven’t had any issues as yet (touch wood), and the government will pay for out of warranty repairs to a certain value.

Sorry I couldn’t provide much more info on the Starkey IIC other than the brief bit above.

Don’t hesitate to ask questions on this forum - 99% of the folk here are very friendly and knowledgeable and are happy to answer questions or give advice.

Cheers,
Richard

@auGMS said:

I just want the best sound quality across speech, music, TV, outdoors, plus reliability

You are probably not going to get that with an iic.

In reply to @Richierich1968

I’ve had Starkey Sound Lens in a 3 different versions over the years. You can have them make the “string” any length you want. Instead of trying to grasp it between your thumb and finger, with the nail of your finger you can press against the “ball” onto the wall of your ear canal and drag it out that way. If you do this, unless you have really thick fingers, you can shorten the string so that it stays hidden.

In reply to @Richierich1968

Just in case it’s not that well known, getting a close-to-the-eardrum fitting for these hearing aids is essential. I’ve had 3 “impressions” made and only the first one was really deep so the was invisible. Most hearing aid fitters don’t want to mess that close to the ear drum for obvious reasons and so you end up with a HA that doesn’t sit as deeply in your canal as it should. They have LIDAR type fitting technology now so I’d find a seller who can do that since, theoretically, they could get an impression right up the the ear drum. BTW, our ear canals are tapered and surrounded by bone, and so once they make the HA, it’s impossible to push it in too far.

Wow. It’s been more than two years already. Still wearing the P90 Titaniums as I write this and have self-fitted now, and learned a lot in this time (with a very supportive audiologist).
They have been back twice for repair because of the little flange where you insert the Cerustops in falling out. They are about to go back again (3rd time) for the same thing, but fortunately they didn’t fall out in my ear this time.

Repairs seems common place with living with hearing aids, so using my same impressions I have just ordered a pair of Unitron Insera 3 customs as a back up pair to serve me for when travelling, or when mine are in for repair.

The Titaniums have been dropped a few times, and even rolled over by a desk chair, but are tough. Had to replace the battery doors a few times (my audiologist even mailed me out a few at no cost). But I really can’t fault them. If I could afford it I would have ordered a second pair as my backup, but as we know, these are a flagship and expensive .

Related discussions