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In reply to @Zebras

I can’t help you there, iOS and Android seem to limited on microphone selection but on desktop OS that is not the case there… I worked on Microphone selection code for one of our cross platform project. (iOS, Android, Windows. macOS), it works great and API is supported but not used on Android or iOS phone app…

In reply to @JordanK

Thanks Jordan!
Would there be a work around like an add on assessors that would work.
Or maybe noise cancellation setting to use while using phone and connection?
My main concern in choosing a HA is to hear and understand speech in a crowd or noise withe focused directionality as well as have the person on the other end of the phone hear me, not the ambient noise.
Maybe the sound quality the Lumity would provide would not benefit me due to my high frequency loss. My ears are dead above 1.5K, so is the clarity of the Lumity going to be of benefit, or should I just look at the phone side of my choice and choose the Amnia?

In reply to @ssa

@ssa said:

I can’t help you there, iOS and Android seem to limited on microphone selection

It appears that iOS 16.2 allows microphone selection (aids or phone) using the Accessibility menu (triple click of the right side button then select the Mic Input item) with my Oticon More 1 aids on and connected. I would guess this might be true for other hearing aids but that is a guess as I only have Oticon aids. My phone is an iPhone 12 mini with version 16.2; aids have firmware 1.4.1. I don’t know if the Oticon ON app allows selection as I rarely use the app.

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interesting… bluetooth classic is different such as phonak lumity hearing aid… core bluetooth team assume that the devices are perfect… the problem is there is so many teams at apple such as MFI team and core Bluetooth team that does their own stuff and 2 team don’t communicate the changes being made for MFI or bluetooth core team… i think is going on… and as evidence, they kept the hearing aid pairing system from the main bluetooth core that comply with specification of bluetooth.

I didn’t think the ability of the Lumitys to connect directly to my computer would matter much to me. But since I’ve been doing neighborhood association board meeting minutes with the Lumitys, I find them incredibly useful for that:

Streaming from PC to Philips 9030 aids
On streaming from a computer, I didn’t think it would matter much to me. But I’m trialing the Phonak Lumitys and it’s easy to hook them up to a computer. I’ve been serving as the secretary of our neighborhood association board for the past year. My modus operandi has been to record the audio of the Zoom meeting, to feed the .MP3 audio to the online MS 365 Word for Web audio transcription, then use the text from the audio transcription to do the meeting minutes. The A.I. of the audio transcri…

The main drawback, as detailed in the linked post, is that there still is an annoying latency lag in playing back audio segments related to particular problematic transcript segments. It would be even worse, probably, if I were using ReSound ’s with the Phone Clip+ as an intermediary connecting device. I could wear a BT wireless headphone over ReSound HA’s and connect directly to the computer that way (and I’ll try it when I trial the Omnias) but the direct in-the-ear quality of the sound with the Lumitys is great. Better than I remember audio quality with my Quattros and over-the-hear BT headphones.

Hopefully, when BT becomes a thing with both computers and HA’s, the latency problem will go away.

@Sequoia_Woman You’re welcome. I have heard folks say they aren’t really waterproof, but I would imagine that they would be more water resistant. I chose the waterproof version mainly for the charger. If I get extra moisture protection in the deal, I consider that a bonus.

Another thing that is worthy of mention is the body of the waterproof version that fits behind the ear is slightly larger. I’m small and wear glasses, so this was a concern for me. I didn’t want the area behind my ear to be too crowded. My audi ordered a dummy so that I could compare the size. I could hardly tell the difference and it hasn’t been an issue for me.

In reply to @slance66

I got my Lumity L90s Dec 15th. My Audi did a hearing test, which showed some hearing loss (updated my here based on latest hearing test). He did Not perform snd when asked he said ‘the computer will do the job & saves me time’. Well I’m here to tell you - that may work for some but not me. I will be insisting on REM. I mentioned that he sounded like he had a ‘lisp’ and my own voice did too. He said “that’s because he increased the Gain. Try it until next appointment”. OMG, it is terrible. I wore the Lumity from Dec 15th - 23rd. I went to Christmas party , struggled with hearing conversations standing in front of me or across table. This was a good test in Noisy situations. I went to a restaurant on 23rd and it was a quiet cafe and I could not understand speech when waitress was right at my table talking to me. I came home and put my Paradise 90s back in snd life is good. These Paradise were programmed by a different Audiologist, newly out of school, that has left the practice :thinking:. I’m thinking I’ll just return these Lumity snd regroup. The problem is the lack of audiologists around here. Needless to say I’m frustrated. Any advice? :grinning:

In reply to @jonifoz

Of you don’t mind me asking, what hearing aids did you update from. Did you have done w/ your fitting of Lumity? I’m very frustrated with mine, but thinking it is more Audi programming than hearing aids. Thanks for above info. I’m small and wear glasses too. The Lumity compared to Paradise are a bit smaller.

In reply to @Sequoia_Woman

Since the is measuring real sound pressures in your ear canal, there isn’t really a good way to substitute it. Everyone’s ear geometry is different, and this determines what happens with the sound levels in your ear. It isn’t the be-all, end-all, but it is a useful tool. You probably need adjustment after REM, but it is a good start. It isn’t an option for most DIYers, but they can twiddle the settings until they get what they want. No waiting for an appointment, and begging please for the change.

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In reply to @Sequoia_Woman

As one has already mentioned, is a good option is these types of situations, it’s really not that hard and everything needed is easily available, you could still get done if you felt the need after DIY, your audiologist should of preformed REM when you asked, the fact he fobbed you off points to having to find another clinic for the future (or just stick with DIY and be done with it)

In reply to @Sequoia_Woman

@Sequoia_Woman said:

Needless to say I’m frustrated. Any advice?

Why not tell him the story you are telling over here. I assume you are on a trial so maybe there are still possibilities to get them better.
And if not… you tell him/ her you do not see better results after having tried them.

His task will be to help you otherwise you want buy so the will not be much of an extra tryout for him.

Unfortunately for a the REM machine is an in between €2.5000 till €8,000 investigation. One of the things I myself will not buy for this hobby.

@Emile030 said:

Unfortunately for a DIY the REM machine is an in between €2.5000 till €8,000 investigation. One of the things I myself will not buy for this hobby.

Oh I would never recommend anyone to do this, for us folks we don’t need it, so for DIY projects all you need is software (in this instance Target) and programming device NW (Noahlink wireless) no need for the expense of external real-ear equipment.

In reply to @Sequoia_Woman

@Sequoia_Woman said:

The problem is the lack of audiologists around here.

My problem is the lack of competent caring audiologists. I am hoping I found a good, caring one at Duke University, a 2 hour drive from me.

You need someone skilled in using . One reason I started going to Costco 8 years ago was because they all have the REM equipment. I am not convinced they all know how to use it. If your audiologist dies not think REM will help, I doubt having them use it will help much.

In reply to @Sequoia_Woman

After 20 years I am convinced there is not a competent facility in my area. The last 8 years I stuck with Costco due to price. Niw I feel I really need a better experience. My hearing is really affecting my work and personal life.

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