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Hi everyone,

I’ve had great success with self programming my hearing aid. I think there might have been some wires crossed in the communications department with my audiologist, because in our last session the mode I described was assigned the third position, while another mode was added in the first position.

Thankfully, I was able to tweak my hearing aids (Phonak NAIDA B90 + Phonak B) so that they boot up in the right mode. I also tweaked one or two other settings to improve the sound slightly.

The last thing I want to tweak: is it possible to have my hearing aids start up at the exact volume level I need without touching any of the currently-set audio parameters? Now that I have successfully solved one problem I wanted to tackle this next one.

Also: what would happen if I applied an update? Would I get the same interface my audiologist currently uses? I notice the section is slightly different on Phonak Target 7.1 when compared with the one my audiologist uses (I imagine it’s the most updated version). Just curious…I have no current plans to adjust MPO myself.

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@codergeek2015 said:

The last thing I want to tweak: is it possible to have my hearing aids start up at the exact volume level I need without touching any of the currently-set audio parameters?

Just raise the whole lot in the program you want to adjust by the 1 button or 3 dB button.

Correcting the individual gain values is a bit scary for the beginner. There is another easier way.

The device continuously records the volume corrections made by the user. (Data logging should be set to ON)
With “Apply adaptation” of the logged data, this can be corrected automatically. Ideally, this should have been logged for a few days.

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Something you need to know is that next when you audiologist connects to your hearing aids, he/she will get a message that there is a discrepancy between the data stored in the hearing aids and his/her database.

In the absence of any prior mention by you, this will get dismissed as “one of those odd things that happen from time to time” and he/she will select “use last session” which means your own adjustments will be lost.

If you confess that you have been adjusting them yourself then he/she can select “use instrument data” and start from where you left off.

@david.hendon said:

If you confess that you have been adjusting them yourself then he/she can select “use instrument data” and start from where you left off.

Oh I doubt that an audi would ever do that. They will never trust your amateur settings over their own professional settings. :wink:

I speak from personal experience. It depends on the customer and the audiologist. When I first told her I was tweaking the fitting myself, she said “I’m not at all surprised”. Last time I asked her to take my settings and save them into her database, which she readily did.

Oh, that’s surprising. I also speak from experience. One over-the-shoulder dirty-look at me from her computer screen, a quick explanation from me, and Bam! reset to audi’s original settings.

She wanted her volume increased. Everything, “All”, the whole shebang.

But I convinced her to stand behind me at my desk while we played some of the fitting software media/audio with the computer speakers pointed towards both of us.

Then we compared turning everything up versus turning up only the soft sounds.
She ended liking it better when we turned up only what Oticon defines as (Soft).
But that was Oticon Genie2 which separates Loud,Moderate,Soft controls.

With Phonak Target at Fitting/Fine Tuning you can (select 3-gain handles to-make-it-simple) and then adjust (Low, Mid, or high frequencies); I’m not saying this is what you should do. I’m just showing you how to do it.

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But that’s just a start. At (Audibility fine tuning) you could select various Speech components for adjustment too;

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In reply to @Zebras

@Zebras said:

I would find your way too confusing to me

I understand your reservations.
Because I seem to remember that you never have to change the volume on the .
I find it a very simple method to correct the overall volume. It corrects exactly what you have adjusted in daily use.

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@pvc said:

She ended liking it better when we turned up only what Oticon defines as (Soft).
But that was Oticon Genie2 which separates Loud,Moderate,Soft controls.

Update—> This soft-sound adjustment didn’t work out so well. So we used Oticon’s In-situ Audiometry tool to start over from the beginning. Now everything seems louder to her, which is a good thing and she seems happy with that.

btw> Just to be clear; We don’t have a working relationship with an audiologist so everything we do is /without professional help.

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