Oticon Standard charger

@6b7958d1addc9d4c3949 said:

how does the manufacturer deal shelf life when in storage?

Short storage time? If stored, they recommend charging every 6 months.

@6b7958d1addc9d4c3949 said:

That asked, I’m in a test.

My buddy and I read the Smart charger book and agree on operation

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@6b7958d1addc9d4c3949 said:

Thanx for the input. If a drained rechargeable battery is causes damage then how does the manufacturer deal shelf life when in storage?

After the mfg build the charger, they don’t charge it up fully but only charge it up partially to minimize loss of shelf life while it’s in storage waiting to be sold.

But some devices have active circuitries inside (like maybe volatile memories that can’t hold data without power so it takes power from the battery to keep the data intact), so you can’t really just set it to 50% charge and leave it alone because over time, the active circuitries inside will drain it out. That’s probably why Oticon recommends charging the Smart Charger every 6 months in storage, because that’s how long it takes to drain a fully charged Smart Charger in storage.

@6b7958d1addc9d4c3949 said:

Last night I used his Standard charger and he used my Smart charger. We will do this for 3 days and see where we are.

Not sure what the point of this exercise is. If to see which charger does a better job of charging the aids more fully such that they may last longer in a day if charged by one charger over the other, then it’s really a moot point because usually the charger doesn’t stop charging until the aids are full. I’d be very surprised if they would yield different run times on the aids consistently.

The only interesting comparison you can make between the 2 chargers is which one charges the aids up to 100% faster than the other. But even then, if you charge overnight and it doesn’t take all night to finish charging, then it’s a moot point, too.

If I were to want to test the chargers, I’d just want to test them to see whether their charging time for either completing a full charge, or for doing a partial charge in the middle of the day, lives up to the mfg’s advertised claims or not.

And I don’t really see any advantage of you and your buddy swapping the chargers to test them out. Unless your daily usage pattern is exactly the same as your friend’s, which is highly unlikely, it’s not going to give accurate comparisons because your usage patterns are most likely different in the first place.

The only accurate way by swapping charger is if you do all your measurements on YOUR aids with one charger, and swap it with your friend’s SIMPLY so that he still has a charger to use while you test out the exact tests on YOUR aids with his charger now. This will eliminate the variables between your friend’s usage pattern and yours. Even you own usage pattern can vary from day to day as well, unless you do it enough days and take the average.

@Volusiano: Exactly, MrV … Exactly! [I was about to enter a post of my own, to this exact same effect.]

PS: I’d watch yourself → these two seem to know a lot of the FDA’s inside tricks!

Interesting.
My Audi is the VA. I have to mail them to the Denver repair center.

As a retired Electrical Engineer, I have very good digital and analog volt meters.

What can I measure on a wireless charger or rechargeable HAs?

What am I looking for?

Is I search this site, what would I search for?

Today on a Standard overnight charge I wore the Mores for 15 hours and put them in the charger reading 41% and 39%.

Much better. 2 more days.

My buddy, was down to 29 and 30%

@6b7958d1addc9d4c3949 said:

What can I measure on a wireless charger

Don’t you have access to a wired charger? I understood that you did.

Unfortunately, I’m not sure if you can do much with a Voltmeter to verify anything related to the proper operation of your Smart Charger.

If you swap charger with your friend and your friend got crappy results like you do on his aids, it doesn’t really tell you that the SmartCharger is not performing as well as the regular charger if both are fully operational as designed. It can only confirm that there’s something wrong with your SmartCharger and it needs to be replaced.

Your decision on which one to buy for yourself (if the SmartCharger is only a trial one) should be based on the assumption that both of them should live up to the claims of the manufacturer, and the only consideration you should give is the pros and cons of one vs the other, convenience and portability vs reliability and longevity being some of the pros and cons to consider (if price is the same hence not a consideration).

Then once you make your decision, if the choice you make doesn’t live up to the advertised claim by the manufacturer, then it becomes a warranty and replacement issue.

@Volusiano said:

You’re confused? I’m confused.

@Volusiano: Exactly, MrV … Exactly!

@Volusiano said:

But some devices have active circuitries inside (like maybe volatile memories that can’t hold data without power so it takes power from the battery to keep the data intact),

Batteries also self-discharge. That is likely the primary drain.

@prodigyplace: I received my replacement (brand new) genuine Oticon®️ brand SmartCharger™️ on Friday. It seems not to have the intermittent flashing lights that the original unit did, and both HAs show green LEDs when I open the lid of the unit. The hearing aids last me all day (16+ hours) but I don’t have the app on my phone (like @cvkemp) because it’s cyberjunk.

• “Drying function automatically removes any moisture build-up from hearing aids to keep them working and ready for use” (quoted directly from the Oticon sight);
• The little fan into the case of it is very, very quiet.

I will likely follow both your leads. I assume the audiologist will want to be sure it is installed. But it will get uninstalled.

@prodigyplace: Bruce, I think one of the reasons Mike and I are indifferent to the app is that we have the remote control, that obviates the need to change programs via the phone. We don’t like to have to fiddle with the buttons on the aids themselves, so the remote control units we have allow us to change programs without a fuss. You may want to keep the app on your phone until such times as you have a remote control of your own. That’s just a suggestion, of course.

Did I see the Connect clip has remote control too?

Yes when the connect clip is powered on, you can accept calls, adjust the volume of the aids, change programs, and mute the hearing aids microphones.