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Rechargeable Lumity Life NOT holding its charge anymore

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UPDATE as of 21 Jan

I’ve spent the past 4 days trying out combinations and permutations of the 2 sets of Lumity Life aids to see if I can get additional hours of use. Tests run to-date:

WED: I wanted to find a “universal” version of Android 13 to put on my Samsung Flip-4 because Samsung has not yet released that version even tho it has come out in other countries and even here in the USA (DOH!)

  • Hubs spent ALL day manually downloading Android 13 to my phone. It was 6pm, so not much of a test could be run for either OLD or NEW Life aids to see if it extended battery life.
  • I still had both OLD and NEW Life aids paired + connected to my cell phone.

THU: I wanted to see if the installation of Android 13 on my cell phone extended battery life

  • I still had both pairs of OLD and NEW Life aids paired + connected to my cell phone.
  • I charged up my OLD Life aids in their original induction base, put them in, and they only lasted 4.5 hrs till they DIED before noon.
  • So I put in the NEW Life aids which I’d charged up in their original base at 11:30am and they sailed through the day, showing 70% charge when I took them out at 10:30pm.
  • CONCLUSION: It appears that Android 13 is indeed making a big difference in battery life.

FRI: I wanted to to see if it made a difference which charger I use for the aids.

  • I removed the OLD Life aids from my cell phone’s completely, so only one pair of Life aids is now paired + connected.
  • I started the day with my NEW Life aids that I’d charged up in the OLD Life’s charging base overnight Only the NEW Life aids were paired + connected to my cell phone.
  • I put the OLD Life aids back in their original charger for 24 hrs.
  • My NEW Life aids gave me 14 hrs of use by day’s end, and when I took the off, there was still 30% charge remaining, so this time I turned them OFF for the night and didn’t put them in a charger. I want to run them down completely to see how long they last.
  • CONCLUSION: None can be made till tomorrow.

SAT: I wanted to see how long my NEW Life aids run, given that I now have Android 13 installed and just these aids paired + connected to my cell phone,

  • I turned on my NEW Life aids and, still at 30% charged, I got another 3.5 hours of use before they died. Total time: 17.5 hours. As Yosemite Sam would yell: YEEEEEEHAAAAAAA! I don’t think I’d need any more hours unless I’m taking a 20-hr flight overseas. I’d just wear my battery-powered Marvels for that one.
  • I checked my OLD Lumity Life aids that’d been in their original charger more than a day. LEFT aid is blinking orange, but after pairing + connecting to my phone, BT shows they are 100% charged. I highly doubt that, but will wear them till they run down.
  • CONCLUSION: I’m guessing that my OLD pair of Lumity Life aids needs a firmware update, so I’ll be dropping these off next week. I’ll be curious to find out if my LEFT aid is a lemon or if a firmware update does the trick.

Stay tuned.

@1Bluejay said:

I’ve spent the past 4 days trying out combinations and permutations of the 2 sets of Lumity Life aids

@1Bluejay : Why, why, why, oh why? Sorry - I’m tuning out. You’re ignoring every bit of expert advice that’s being offered to you (not by ME - I’m not that smart!)

Sorry - it’s all making my head hurt!

(You seem to want it to be what you want it to be, even when it b’ain’t!, IMO)

I’m testing more than one thing here:

  1. Android 13 OS for extending battery life
  2. Charging base (are they truly interchangeable)
  3. Impact of having one vs 2 pairs of Lumity Life aids paired + connected to cell phone

Hey, just call me curious about how things work.

@1Bluejay: If you say so. I know better than to try to argue with you. But I think others have provided authoritative answers for all your questions. YMMV, of course.

Well, I got ONE MORE thing to share! After I turn in my old pair of Lumity Life aids, I’ll find out why the LEFT one won’t hold a charge. So I’ll post that, too. Even if it likely is the result of a firmware update, it’s good to share that information. :slight_smile:

GOOD POINT! 8 mos in my mind is way too short for rechargeable. My “OLD” pair of Lumity Life aids are from Sept. But again, if they just need a firmware update I’m good. If they are going down … that’s not good.

I’m puzzled why the LEFT aid on just this pair winks orange when I take it out of the charger, but shows 100% charged up. That is my TEST for today: to see how long this pair of Life aids last. If they go down in 4.5 hrs like they did a few days ago, there is clearly something wrong with the hardware on the aid.

Stay tuned Spud!

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In reply to @Herbhornist

@Herbhornist said:

or by yourself if you’re handy.

@Herbhornist : Actually, this is not quite true. You can replace the battery easily enough, but you need to have access to Genie 2 because you have to re-calibrate the battery’s capacity in that program. You can’t just pop the battery in, and resume operation because everything has to be recalibrated due to the additional capacity of the battery due to its newness.

(The newness of the battery contributes to its capacity, but not vice versa.)

In reply to @1Bluejay

@1Bluejay said:

I’m puzzled why the LEFT aid on just this pair winks orange when I take it out of the charger, but shows 100% charged up.

Thank you for your reports. Interesting and really appreciated!
How do you read the %?
The MyPhonak app shows the level for both separately.
The phone’s bluetooth system page shows only the % of the master HA, usually the right HA. The master is doing the heavy lifting communicating to the phone.
It might be interesting to see the two levels. Especially the one blinking still orange after charging.

@sterei said:

How do you read the %?

I read the % charged right off my cell phone - and you’re right, it only displays the “heavy lifter”. I don’t have MyPhonak app on my phone, but I agree, it would be interesting to track the power discharge of each aid as it’s being used.

I will definitely be turning in the OLD pair of Lumity Life aids (just got them in Sept, if that’s even “old”?) this week. It will be interestng to find out what failed on these Lumity Life aids and WHY, in such a short period of time. By contrast, my Marvel aids were rock solid until both speakers failed a few months apart - before the warranty ran out.

Maybe that’s par for the course for battery-operated aids.

@Zebras said:

Could that only been done via the myPhonak App?

@Zebras
I can’t think of an other way.
(apart using Target of course)

The one thing we can assume is that the right (old) wasn’t fully charged. Blinking orange indicated a level between 11…80%.

According user manual:
Blinking red: 0…10%
Blinking orange: 11…80%
Blinking green: 81…99%
Steady green: 100%

In reply to @prodigyplace

@prodigyplace said:

Why would Bluetooth LE and Bluetooth Classic need separate radios? I believe they use the same frequencies. Software could negotiate the proper protocol.

That’s not the way it works. classic and BT LE have different protocols for advertising, establish connection, and communication. You cannot connect and later change the protocol.

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@prodigyplace said:

Software could negotiate the proper protocol.

I think you are confusing with Application based protocol which app/devices uses to communicate which is the trunk of the car/truck

bluetooth classic is the gas guzzling truck and bluetooth LE is the Tesla… they both use the same 2.4 ghz (highway)…

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