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In reply to @cvkemp

@cvkemp said:

I have been on the keto lifestyle since this last Septembe

I did keto (20 total carbs, moderate fat, reasonable protein) last year and lost 25 pounds.

After having my total cholesterol and particles tested I found my total up near 400. I appear to be an Hyper-responder. The only known solution is increasing carb intake. There has not really been any research into whether coronary disease risk is increased. It has been estimated this affects up to 33% of those trying keto

After raising my carbs and limiting refined carbohydrates my cholesterol returned to normal.

There is lots of research now that the cholesterol levels are a huge problem. The key is the ratio of HDL and triglycerides. The closer to 1:1 the better. It was my doctor that encouraged me to go on keto.

In reply to @SpudGunner

@Bucco said:

when initially released?

@SpudGunner said:

@Bucco: IIRC … The press release says that both versions will be available, without specifying release dates.

It’s available to order immediately in Denmark. My audiologist has ordered them already and they’ll be with him next week. I’m coming back in March to be fitted with them.

Looked in the Apple App Store for the Oticon Companion and found it. It seems to combine the hearing aid app with the remote access/configuration app and adds a streaming audio equalizer of sorts.

In reply to @ToriNi

@ToriNi said:

https://wdh01.azureedge.net/-/media/oticon/main/pdf/master/whitepaper/264219uk_wp_ot_sudden-sound-stabilizer.pdf?la=en&rev=F60B&hash=EB8C83F7499202A3A8C56E35C3B07872

https://wdh01.azureedge.net/-/media/oticon/main/pdf/master/whitepaper/264220uk_wp_ot_wind-and-handling-stabilizer.pdf?la=en&rev=9478&hash=BE23665AD790603CDB46D67629556BCF

Thanks for the direct links! I was able to download and review both whitepapers. Those 2 enhancements seem pretty cool, but they would only be handy and helpful if you encounter sudden sounds or windy situations often enough. And even with sudden sounds, the More already has traditional Transient Noise Management that basically does the same thing, albeit not as finely and effectively. The More also has the traditional wind noise management as well that’s built-in and ON all the times.

The real value of the Sudden Sound Stabilizer is more or less in the situations when you have continuous sudden sounds while you’re trying to listen to speech, which is an even more rare case in and by itself.

I would say that for non-More users, the natural choice would be to go for the Real instead of the More to get the latest and greatest (unless you want to wait to take advantage of the More price drop due to the Real like me). But for More users, it doesn’t seem like it’s worth upgrading to the Real, unless you really are exposed very often to sudden sounds or wind noise situations that you can take advantages of these new features.

Improvement in sudden sound handling and wind noise handling…

This really not excitement improvement for me at all. Because I kind of loved Sudden Sound keep it sudden and loud. I loved those tud tud bang bang lol

Wind noise…? what is wind noise… lol never exist for me.

However, I check Bernafon OasisNXT 2023.1 version. There a new version of Alpha.

Alpha XT - I check the program, it also have Transient Noise manage 6 levels. Same as Oticon Real.

Wind noise also got a new name - Wind/Contact Noise protector (instead of Wind Noise).

This is mean Bernafon and Oticon (which is same Dermak group anyway) do shared the new chip Polaris R. There rumor they use the same chip as Oticon used but never publicly confirmed. So Bernafon and Oticon use the same chip after all, otherwise, they don’t have the same setting option.

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@mami2529 said:

Alpha XT - I check the program, it also have Transient Noise manage 6 levels. Same as Oticon Real.

Wind noise also got a new name - Wind/Contact Noise protector (instead of Wind Noise).

This is mean Bernafon and Oticon (which is same Dermak group anyway) do shared the new chip Polaris R. There rumor they use the same chip as Oticon used but never publicly confirmed. So Bernafon and Oticon use the same chip after all, otherwise, they don’t have the same setting option.

This is not necessarily true at all. A particular technology doesn’t have to only exclusively be built into a single chip or else it doesn’t exist anywhere else, such that if a hearing aid has that technology, then it must share the same platform that is used by another aid on that platform (you call it chip, but it’s more than a single chip, it can be several chips together in a platform).

Take the Oticon Speech Rescue technology (). It existed even the Oticon OPN was ever released. In fact Oticon initially released the OPN without Speech Rescue on its Velox platform. But about a year later, they released a new firmware update for the OPN that contains Speech Rescue. Then the Velox S platform (which is a incremental yet still different platform than the original Velox platform) also has Speech Rescue in there. Then came the More on the Polaris platform and Speech Rescue is also included in there. Now the Real on the Polaris R platform is rolled out, and I’m sure Speech Rescue is still in there. In fact, Speech Rescue is also used by Sonic aids, Bernafon aids, and Philips aids as well (albeit it has different names), but none of those aids share the same Velox or Velox S or Polaris or Polaris R platform.

The More use on the Polaris and the Real also uses the same DNN on the Polaris R. But I never heard any trumpet signaling that the Bernafon is using the same DNN core technology that is used by Oticon. I contend that Sonic, Bernafon, Philips and Oticon all use DIFFERENT CORE technologies on different platforms, which is what differentiate them in the first place, even though they use the same peripheral technologies like Speech Rescue and Transient Noise Management, etc, and even the same accessories like the TV Adaptor and the intermediary streamer, and possibly the Li-ion charger as well, simply because they’re all subsidiaries (or licensee) of a mother company.

I have a hypothesis about the keto response difference. Maybe you two (cvkemp and prodigyplace) are a different blood type, and maybe that has a bearing on the situation. My guess would be, cvkemp is type O (like my O-negative, meat-loving wife) and prodigyplace is some other type, maybe . Am I close?

@SpudGunner said:

Do tou mean rhat these were once discrete entities that were acquired by the umbrella company?

Yes. For example, here is Bernafon’s history. Demant bought them in 1994.

Bernafon hearing aids | Hear your day, your way

Rechargeable Bernafon hearing aids. It’s your hearing. Let’s make it work for you. Bernafon hearing aids match your needs, your lifestyle, and your budget…

Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.

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