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Hi, can anyone tell me what gains and frequencies they find ceiling fans and furnace noise in? I’m at work and we have these big air movers and I cannot figure out what frequency/gain levels to reduce to quiet it down without diminishing speech levels. Thanks for any recommendations.

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Can’t remember what hearing aids you have but I found very soft sounds to be the issue on my Phonaks. I reduced by 2 .

This was when I had better hearing tho.

You could try to find out using a Spectrum Analyzer, easily available for android or iOS devices.
But as mentioned it’s sometimes in the lower frequencies but not always, what models of are you using?

I have phonak p50up. Another thing i ak noticing is there is no dimemsion. No differentiation between foreground, middle ground and background. I can hear people talking far away great. But not the people in front of me. But when i decrease the loyd gains, and try to increase the soft gains, it basocally puts all the gains right back where i started automatically. I’m using the apd2.0 formula with prescribed compression. i tried the semi linear and linear options as well. I dont see a way to reduce compression other than selecting unibtelligble speech in the auto fix options. But that is limited and confined to speech gains and frequencies.

Yeah it’s hard to get spatial awareness thing right, especially with severe/ profound sensorineural losses, it’s a brain thing, not so much adjustments,

@anon54276456 said:

i tried the semi linear and linear options as well. I dont see a way to reduce compression

Linear is no compression, you should try this with NAL formula and see how that goes, there’s also DSLv5a to try which has good reviews from profound users.

@anon54276456 said:

But when i decrease the loyd gains, and try to increase the soft gains, it basocally puts all the gains right back where i started automatically.

Not sure I’m understanding what your saying, if you make changes in target and save them, then they won’t change back automatically.

Can you post your and anything else that can help others give advice, as there’s a few Phonak users on the forum doing .

I added an to my profile, just figured out how to do that. So what i meant was, when i reduce the loud gains, that shifts all the other gains down too, which is fine. But when i increase the soft gains after that, it increases the moderate and loud gains again. Pretty much putting the gains back to where they were before making any adjustments.

In Target go into fine adjustments then program options and you will find "Soft Noise Reduction…

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With your hearing loss, I don’t think you want to change any of your gains manually, especially those low frequency gains critical for speech that are going to be where the fan noise is as well. You are looking for your feature that will attempt to reduce the steady humming sounds without reducing speech sounds which are not steady sounds.

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Yes that’s one of the limitations when programming, you can’t change just one handle without others changing, this is how the “formula” works, a PITA for us doing , so as mentioned by @cleveto you go into fine tuning and then click on “program options” there you get the option to adjust very soft sounds which is air conditioner, fans and even clocks!

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@anon54276456 Oh no not at all. The wonderful thing about is there are no limits to trying anything. I have made dozens of manual gain changes and many others over the last two months. I don’t have the Target software to experiment with the “fine tuning” as mentioned by the others, but my Resound software seems to take care of many annoying humming sounds via the “expansion” setting as Resound named it.

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@anon54276456 said:

My old phonaks had just that feature, there used to be a tab called TK Gain

This is apparently the similar feature that Resound names “expansion” as they refer to the threshold kneepoint (TK) in the technical verbiage. So perhaps that’s now relabeled under the Target fine tuning section as mentioned?

Yeah there is a soft noise reduction feature. It goes from zero to 20, but no matter i put the indicator i hear mo change. Same with the loud noise reduction, if i increase it from the prescribed setting nothing changes.

It seems to me my issues are in the compression. I have tried linear in all the formulas, the 2.0 formula sounds best. But all formulas the loud gains are too high. So as soon as i decrease the loud gains, it just adds a ton of compression. Doesnt matter if its semi linear, prescribed compression, linear. Every prescribed formula loud gains are way too high. I gotta knock them down like 6-9 decibels. I tried the loud noise reduction, nothing. Not sure how to make changes without altering the conpression

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