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Like many others I really struggle to gain much benefit from my Phonak Marvel 70s in a noisy restaurant setting. I have been offered a Phonak Roger Touchscreen mic for a very good price. They do not connect as is , can they connect with additional hardware or software ?

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You need 2 x Roger X receivers with appropriate serial numbers to install the license from the receiver in to your Aids. Must be type 02 receivers to work with touchscreen.

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Phonak Roger On™ iN – Microphone Transmitter
You’ll have to transfer the licenses back in to the Roger iN, otherwise you’re done. I’ve bought a standard Roger On, and 2x Roger X’s AND a Roger Installer. You plug each Roger X (has to be over Serial No 1744) into the installer, then place the HA on it. It then transfers the licence into the HA. Repeat for the othe Roger X & HA. At this point the Roger X’s are worthless bricks. You have to reverse these processes to get the licenses back in the Roger X’s. If you lose the HA’s, for example, …

Thanks Zebras. I had actually read this explanation previously but found it so ridiculous that I thought I had misunderstood it.
So Sonova/Phonak force me to purchase physical “receivers” for which I have no need just to obtain “codes” to activate a function that is already installed in my Marvel aids?

It is a means to make you pay for a license to use their technology. So, yes, you got it. I’ve been involved with the software industry for years, and used codes to unlock features in the software, so you can think of it that way if you like. They like your money in their pocket.

I have a Roger On mic and love it. But the total cost is crazy.

WH

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@blackback said:

So Sonova/Phonak force me to purchase physical “receivers” for which I have no need just to obtain “codes” to activate a function that is already installed in my Marvel aids?

Yes. Other people have to have a receiver attached.

Just lucky with Phonak that you don’t need to wear ‘extra equipment’.

Sighhhh!
I simply can’t afford to pay the ransom
So the only real difference between Phonak and the criminal ransomware writers is that Phonak do not insist on payment in Bitcoin.

Are there any other options. Why are receivers on eBay almost always singular? Can I use just one receiver? I recall seeing some mention of neckloops having receivers? I see I need serial numbers above 1744 so what is the format of the serial numbers. Sorry for all the questions but Phonak do not exactly make this necessary info at all clear, When I started I thought receivers were the little bit on the Marvel 70 that went in my ear.

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Yeah WH, Phonak/Sonova make exceptionally good hearing aids, and probably lead the field by some considerable margin, with their ’s (Assistive Listening Devices)… Especially, with Roger Devices… The Roger Touchscreen is an excellent piece of kit (I have one) it comes under the umbrella of (Educational) and anything “Educational “ with Phonak/Sonova, carries another hefty premium price! Modern day “Highwaymen” comes too mind, profiteering because they can, they have no viable competitors, and as such they will screw every last cent out of folks with a disability, whom have no other alternative, but pay their exorbitant prices… That being said, there are viable purchasing alternatives, if you shop around the second hand market, eBay is your friend, if you are patient, and willing to wait for the right price, the one that suits your pocket… I buy all my Roger ALD’s second hand, Roger X receivers Type (2) or Type (3) are also available on eBay. And as @Zebras rightly stated, it is imperative they have a serial number above 1744…So ask before you buy! Good Luck, in obtaining some @blackback… Cheers Kev :wink:

Just to clarify:
To use a Roger touchscreen mic, your two Roger X’s will have to be Type 2.

Your ’s will have to have the option for the Roger Neckloop to work.

Peter H.

I was trying to understand what is needed to use a Roger touchscreen with Phonak Sky L and I found this thread. I am wondering if the information mentioned here is still valid for this new generation of HA.

Do I still need to buy Roger X receivers just to obtain the license?

I found some used Roger Touchscreen being sold.. are all the versions compatible with Sky L HA?

From your experience, what is usually a fair price for a used one?

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@Zebras is our resident touchscreen expert.
With L you will need 2 licenses to be able to use any Roger equipment. There are various economical ways of doing this .
Unfortunately new mikes are very expensive but members have picked up bargains from Ebay.
Have you read the rest of this post? It answers most of your questions apart from the cost one.

If you are in the US, it might be easier and less expensive just to purchase a used Roger On iN on EBay.

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@michael1 said:

There are various economical ways of doing this .

This is what I was searching for. I see that some people go for the neckloop if the have t-coil available (but that isn’t the best option for a young kid) and other people try to buy devices with receiver licenses already included like Roger On iN. Is there any other option?

@raylock1 said:

If you are in the US, it might be easier and less expensive just to purchase a used Roger On iN on EBay.

Is Roger On iN version (the one including the receiver licenses) only available in the US?

@michael1 said:

Have you read the rest of this post? It answers most of your questions apart from the cost one.

Yes, I read the entire post. I was just wondering if the methods are still the same, but I already realised that it remains the same and that the years that have passed didn’t bring any advance on that regard.

The neckloop is not a great option for a child.

Double check whether the (and receivers) is something that the school will just provide?

Check that the touchscreen requires 02 licences because I think you only get them with the physical roger receivers.
I think the latest version is 3 which has unlimited licences like the On In but 02 instead of 03. Anybody?

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@Neville said:

Double check whether the FM (and receivers) is something that the school will just provide?

I am trying to figure it out, but it looks like we don’t have that type of support in Portugal. It is hard to believe, I know.. but it looks like that there is no funding for that.

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@michael1 said:

I think the latest version is 3 which has unlimited licences like the On In but 02 instead of 03. Anybody?

From the description on phonak website it is also my understanding.

Unlimited receivers

With unlimited digital receivers built right into the microphone, setting up has never been easier. No need for a Roger installer pad or Roger X—just install it, and you’re good to go! Simple, hassle-free, and ready to use in no time.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if the performance of touchscreen microphone is much different that the Roger On (in a classroom environment)? Don’t know if the prices vary a lot or if both are in the range of 1500€+

The touchscreen connects to the whole educational line while the Roger on doesn’t. But if you’re just using the mic the Roger on should be fine.

Even just a partner mic would be better than nothing. It would need to be charged throughout the day though.

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