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Can the compression ratio be tweaked in the Philips program for 9030's

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I can find mention of compression in the help files for the Philips Hearsuite program for my 9030 but no compression setting anywhere. I would like to tweak some things for music and compression values are important but I can’t seem to access them. Does anyone knowhow to do that and where these values are found? Thanks

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I have a different brand program (Resound), but when I tighten up the differences between the three gain curves, the compression ratios are reduced accordingly. Basically, moving the loud curve closer to the soft curve until the ratios at each frequency appeal to me.

Yes but do you see the compression values? In some programs you can do that tweaking and see the CR value displayed so you know where you are at if you have some CR goal in mind. The Philips program doesn’t mention or display the CR anywhere so you’re sort of tweaking in the dark, lol.

I believe if you tighten the curves up as much as it will allow for each frequency column, then you will be around 1.0 compression. Normally, you may be around 1.5 to 2.5 compression ratio at each frequency for target gains.

Make them all nearly equal might be around 1.0 but i’m after 1.5 and without the data displayed it’s sort of a guessing game from what I’ve learned to get to 1.5 . It’s not just the ratio of the low to the high.

Read thru most of it and probably a semester class. Lots of good stuff. I really wonder if there’s a fitting standard for hard of hearing people that are also very sensitive to loud noises? I think I could do without ANY gain for 80 and above! Can’t stand even quiet concerts without ear protection. And by quiet I mean around 85 dB. 100 dB and I need even more hearing protection. My airpod pros active noise reduction does OK up to 90-95 dB as long as the buds don’t leak.

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I tried to go back to look at the compression handbook but the pdf is all garbled now…maybe encrypted now? I’m trying to better understand what I did to arrive at the music program I’m currently using for my guitar. It works but I don’t think it’s as good as it can be. I had some advice to set the CR to 1.3 and how you do that exactly is my question. If for instance I start by lowering the 50 gains and follow up with the 85 dB values that will leave the 65 dB gains unchanged. Seems like some sound level will be left unchanged with whatever order I follow. I plan to start with a noise in speech program, turn off all the noise and feedback control and then try to reduce the compression ratios. Having read a lot of posts this morning I realize my understanding of all of this is lacking and my ability to go a lot further with this creating sound samples in audacity, etc. is just falling way short of much beyond what I’ve achieved so far. Just doing the basics and turning down gain in the app helps a lot but not really perfect much like just taking my hearing aids out and playing with the world muffled out works too. But I know without the hearing aids there isn’t any clarity or sparkle…no harshness or distortion either but way short of what other people with normal hearing are hearing.

can be frustrating for sure especially when it comes to playing and listening to music. I am at 90% of the original settings and thinking of going to 100% as my brain has adapted to 90% except for my own voice sounding screwed up at times. I’ve had these 9030’s for over a year now and wear them all the time, except for sleep and showers, and would not think or want to go without…lots of progress at least!

One last question is I’ve noticed that without my my hearing seems worse than before I started wearing HA and I think I understand that this is because my brain is no longer having to work as hard to hear. So what happens when a HA user goes to get another hearing test? If I’m not hearing as well (short term) without the HA won’t the hearing test end up resulting in an “over” prescription for new settings or new hearing aids? And in that case should I go without wearing my HA several days or more before being retested?

Thanks Brec, someone pointed that out to me a while back and I’m way past that now and just finished up doing two guitar playing programs that really work well.

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