Oticon superpower?

You realise that pushing out 120-140dB usable output needs loads more effort and control than 110dB where most aids are already saturated and screaming.

Zebras

@Um_bongo

Is that why the old Naida SP which goes to 110dB can cope with a size 13 batteries yet 120db Naida UP has to use 675?

Could be completely wrong tho.

In reply to @Um_bongo

@Um_bongo I don’t disagree with you, but if you look at this article from hearingtracker:

Phonak Makes Paradise Technology Available to Those With Severe and Profound...
Naída™ Paradise offers an unrivaled powerful hearing experience thanks to next-level, powerful sound and industry-leading connectivity.

“Now in its seventh generation, Naída Paradise is 14% smaller, 27% lighter¹, and further improves upon the legendary hearing performance that ultra-power wearers expect from Phonak.”

That’s compared to the previous generation I suppose (Marvel in this case).

If Sonova/Phonak/Unitron could reduce the size of their most powerful , why can’t Oticon & AL do the same?
I am sure they’ve already reverse-engineered Phonak’s products; We will see what they will come up with, if they decide to help out the severe to profound hearing loss category of people.

stevemink

Bottom line the number of manufacturers over the years producing power hearing aids has dropped some what significantly. Widex after it merged Sivantos Group stopped making power aids. Starkey seems out of the picture. Resound still in the game but I don’t feel they make reliable power aids. Signia also seems be ignoring the severe to profound hearing group.

That some what leaves Oticon and Phonak as the only true providers of power aids that use 675 battery. Seems and most HA manufactures are more interested in aids and aids for the moderate to mid-range group. Since the HA industry is highly unregulated its hard to force aid manufacturers to provide a wide selection of aids for of all types of hearing loss.

And as we know small canal aids sell at a higher volume than big aides. So HA companies are following the money and spending more time, research and money developing aids that can’t be seen or hidden from view versus large aids that fit behind a users ears.

Such is life.

In reply to @user1125

Your reply is very interesting! I had a trial of the Resound top of the range model around 2017 can’t remember which model but it was expertly programmed. I remember that it was excellent for hearing in noise but the audi did not reduce the background sound settings so traffic etc drove me crazy & I returned them! The thing that worries me about models is that I would need a pair of those huge ugly ear shells! Are they what you have with your Phonaks?

stevemink

So casing worries you. Hmmm. I think what you really meant to say was BTE casing turns you off due to size. Understand since I was that way when I was younger. But at some point with a declining hearing loss, someone’s hearing level becomes more important the appearance of hearing aid. Thus if you need more power to hear clearly, at some point BTE aids are usually required.

And to be really really honest Tim - all ’s are pretty much unattractive. Be they big or small. Unless you think lipstick on a pig improves things.

I saw that, but that applies to the weight only as the (1) is on the “lighter”, not the size me thinking.
The roger receiver is size is more than 14% in any cases.

I am with you, but normally they put the superscribe numbers on each item they would define at the end of the page.
Also, as I’ve stated above, the roger receiver is what 12mm (half inch or so), that’s at least 30% or the length.

That was a new platform, Paradise, so they’ve changed the shell and the inner components.
Also, integrated the roger receiver inside the shell.
So, to sell this new Naida paradise, they said it is 14% smaller than the previous generation, and 27% lighter (1).
They put (1) next to lighter and explained that this weight reduction is in part to the integration of the roger direct, instead of having that bulky receiver connected at the bottom; They just want people to know that their statement (lighter) is true if you factor in the roger receiver.

The Naida is much smaller than the Xceed, I suppose you can agree on that?

Zebras

@Baltazard said:

That was a new platform, Paradise

Yes, I have the Phonak Naida P70 UP myself.

If you look at the reference to number 2. It’s based on the whole sentence so I don’t know.

Zebras

In reply to @Baltazard

@Baltazard said:

The Naida is much smaller than the Xceed, I suppose you can agree on that?

Yes but the Xceed had separate volume and program button. That might come into play?

In reply to @stevemink

Hi Steve, sorry for the late reply, just had another 6

Is this what you are meaning? I think I could just about tolerate it if it did the job! I am so frustrated with the situation here in Turkey that I am seriously considering organising a trip to see Dr Cliff

In reply to @user1125

Thanks for your feedback! Please could you post a pic of your Phonak earmoulds in-situ so I can see whether I can tolerate them! So frustrated with the audis here in Turkey that I am thinking of arranging a trip to see Dr Cliff!

anon33641277Author

It seems that the release of the superpower Real was delayed in order to push back the release of the new platform. Phonak and Oticon said they won’t move to the new Bluetooth standard until they test it.

stevemink

In reply to @tim_s64

Your previous post mentioned “ugly” aid. -
The thing that worries me about BTE models is that I would need a pair of those huge ugly ear shells! Are they what you have with your Phonaks?

Your recent photo shows a full shell aid and not BTE. In any case ordering “flesh” colored aid casing or clear casing would blend in better versus darker colored aid you presented. But there are aid users out there that like all kinds of aid colors. To each his own,

user1125

Oct 24, 2023Edited

In reply to @tim_s64

Hi thanks for your reply I will post some pictures of my Naída Paradise P90-UP and also a close up picture of my earmold inside the ear. It closes completely my ear canal so I will hear better and more amplified due to my hearing loss.