Phonak Lumity Naida 90 UP BTE Review

@Zebras
This is interesting, and helpful. Do you have them setup in Target as two seperate customers?

Peter

@PeterH

No same client. I just loaded client and connected the new Aid.

It warns you the serial number isn’t the same but just click okay and then it all works.

Brilliant Ruth, saves a lot of time, and effort, thank you very much for this information Very, very nifty, if you want a set of duplicate aids, or indeed a single aid… It never ceases to amaze me, what excellent workaround’s, we get on here You are indeed a wonderful asset @Zebras

@kevels55 said:

You are indeed a wonderful asset

I’ll see if the App will read all 3 Aids, 2 at a time at some point today.

Phonak p90R's were awful in the hospital

I only let myself leave just 2 solutions here: how to customize mask program in hearing aids (feat. myPhonak app) - YouTube And in audi: https://www.phonakpro.com/content/dam/phonakpro/gc_hq/en/resources/back_to_business/documents/PH_Fitting_Guide_masking_dilemma_210x297_EN_V1.00.pdf

About mask program and mask fitting

Thanks.
My experience was a year ago.

Admitting ward. I heard conversations with clarity 25 feet behind me. I was on my back with a mask on. Everyone had masks on. Ontario. CAnada. Yes in hospital all wore masks

Surgeon was at my feet and I couldn’t understand a word. Paradise P90Rs on.

Very colorful and nice. The wrap matches the mold.

@DaveL said:

I don’t know how to make further improvements.

@DaveL said:

I haven’t had REM yet. I don’t know if it would make a difference

I have REM first time after almost 20 years of using hearing aids. With Phonak earmold with AOV (acoustically optimized venting basen on most recent audiogram) it made a HUGE difference.

In the chart below the shorter column, the better (the grey, after REM):

You may watch this clip (from this moment specifically about REM, but the whole is worth of attention):

Real Ear Measurement vs. Auto Hearing Aid Programming (youtube.com)7

Thank you!
Your post helps.

Dave

@Bimodal_user

Full story. I don’t mean to bore others.

I’ve made gains.

I’m lucky the new hearing aid practitioner took me on. He had manufacturing skills. I have workman’s compensation. I can get new hearing aids in 3+ years. (5 yr cycle) WSIB will not provide new hearing aids until then.

WSIB Ontario will pay for service if my hearing changes. Otherwise appointments are about every six months. That’s why I had to wait 6 months for a new hearing test. There’s been no REM. I don’t know what to make of that

When I switched to him he used my audiogram from the dispensing Audi. I asked him what he found because I heard better.

• Paradise ha were not connected. Right and left.

• wrong domes were specified

• Hearing aid volume had been reduced by old Audi because my hearing had improved. Yeah sure

After the new hearing test by my hearing aid practitioner my hearing was 10 to 20 dB worse than the Audi’s hearing test! Skilled practitioner and he uses brand new equipment. (The dispensing Audi couldn’t pair with my hearing aids unless my phone was turned off. He had to call Phonak so they would help him pair my phone with the hearing aids he provided for me)

Had two follow up tests after that with my new practitioners wonderful hearing test.

Observation. I hated my Paradise P90 hearing aids while I was a patient of the dispensing. Audi. I couldn’t hear for a year and a half.

I hate the rechargeable batteries. I had no say in them. The Audi handed the aids to me and set them up. I had no choice.

Trying to be fair, It’s a miracle he got them. They solved a safety problem at work. I couldn’t hear fast noisy equipment overtaking me at work. I was almost hit a number of times. My previous ha s were 2-1/2 years old

I treated him with respect until I learned he had reduced volume and erased all the custom programs on my hearing aids during my last appointment. He did a quick fit.

Now with this hearing aid practitioner I can hear so much better. Yet I learned here that real ear measures are necessary. He hasn’t done REM

Would I recommend my dispensing Audi?
NO WAY. Iused to and that was a mistake.

Would I recommend Paradise Audeo p90. I’d think twice. I want to hear better in noise. Lumity. Yes maybe. I am impressed with talk here about Oticon and Lumity.

My next appointment will be in about 5 months. Hope this helps.

EDIT I apologize for the rant. My dispensing audiologist provided hearing aids that didnt work. I’ve provided my history so readers may understand. We all have different hearing issues. Some of us live in other nations where things are done differently. And I have workman’s compensation and am very lucky for that. As a taxpayer I’m grateful they control costs.

This is a thread for the Phonak Naida’s, so I will add my recent trial experience for the Naida L90 BTE UP. A couple of months ago I trialed the Oticon Xceed without a successful conclusion. My current trial with the Phonaks is going much better after a couple of weeks and I will likely keep them. My first observation comparing the two is that the Phonak app actually works and has allowed me to adjust settings and improve the HA performance. I am now doing well with my default program on the Phonaks with noticeably increased word recognition. Noisy environments also seem better, although my testing here is limited. Streaming music (which I use frequently) is very good. I will soon get a tv connector and am guessing it will also work well.
The only area of difficulty I am having is hearing my passenger (wife) while driving at freeway speeds. My car is reasonably quiet, but I can’t find a combination of app adjustments that work yet. I will be working with my Audiologist to see if we can improve here. Ultimately, I may buy a Roger device for the car and restaurants.
I’m not sure that the amount I am paying for the new Phonaks is proportional to the increase in my hearing ability, but I have resolved that if I can afford it, I will pay to make improvements. My fear at present is that the HA manufacturers are not producing many new technology ultra-power options for profound hearing loss. Oh well, at my age, I won’t need many more upgrades .

@TomHalf Thank you very much for your feedback.

@TomHalf said:

The only area of difficulty I am having is hearing my passenger (wife) while driving at freeway speeds. My car is reasonably quiet, but I can’t find a combination of app adjustments that work yet.

My brother too, has the same issue, he struggles to hear/understand while driving.

@TomHalf said:

Ultimately, I may buy a Roger device for the car and restaurants.

He did use roger on/clip-on mic with limited success, maybe he hasn’t done it properly.
@kevels55 has had a good success with roger devices in car/restaurant.

Looking forward for your feedback

Hi @DaveL

Just some comments from your history, that may help, or explain, what may have happened, and what I “may” have learnt, on my journey. Of course, I now have access to the target software. Your story doesn’t bore me at all

@DaveL said:

There’s been no REM. I don’t know what to make of that

I’ve never had REM, except the simulated version in Target. This did not help me at all.

@DaveL said:

The dispensing Audi couldn’t pair with my hearing aids unless my phone was turned off.

This is standard, or at least turn Bluetooth off on the phone. At home, when using Target, I have to switch off Bluetooth on nearby devices, and switch off the TV Connector, I also make sure my backup aids and Roger devices are turned off too, or the aids will struggle to connect.

@DaveL said:

and erased all the custom programs on my hearing aids during my last appointment. He did a quick fit.

If the custom programs were made in the app, they’re automatically deleted with a fitting change. I doubt he was being vindictive, to be fair. The quick fit is generally awful for my (similar) hearing loss.

Dave, I see your issues with Phonak Paradise, “may” be helped by Lumity, but I think a couple of changes in Target could solve most problems with your P90s.

1. You wish to hear better speech
2. You need to hear all sounds from all around you, for safety at work

To Phonak, these 2 things are conflicts, as “2” stops “1” from working. “1” uses beamforming, which takes away what it believes is background noise. This could be traffic about to run you over - “2”. I have all my settings at 360⁰ now, as beamforming takes away important stuff, including nature sounds. The world has become a noisier place but I’m trying to re-learn how to pick out the sounds I want to hear. I understand Oticon has the 360⁰ approach, but haven’t tried them.

Good luck
Peter