North West UKI read somewhere here on this forum that Phonak have some quite heavy suppression in the higher frequencies to prevent feedback etc and this can effect the speech clarity
My audiologist told me this. He did everything he could to disable it. I’ve found that “WhistleBlock” is guilty for this too, so I have it as low as I can (6 out of 20… what these numbers mean, is a mystery). If I stand right next to a wall, it’ll start whistling, I set it that when moving away, the whistling stops. If it continues, it’s set too low.
Peter
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Scottish Highlands
I believe, I have tried most, if not all of the fitting formulas, at some point or other? If you aren’t already, giving a go might provide fruition, sometimes a little tweak here and there, can make the world of difference… Target software isn’t rocket science, any mistakes are easily rectified, you just revert back to any of the previous settings/sessions, each session is dated once it’s saved in session 1, then I can revert back at any point to session 1, it’s a fairly full proof method, and this way you are free to experiment, as you will make mistakes… In truth, I do not feel the need to experiment anymore, my aids a running at optimum, my A.uD is a keyboard wizard, she makes lightening adjustment’s at the blink of an eye, my first fit, after I asked her to switch on compression, and swap to NAL NL2, this was my last fitting (6 months ago) these aids (Naida Lumity 90 UP ’s) remain totally unaltered since her initial first fit setup, I could tweak them, and get a slight improvement here or there, but if it works, and it works well, then I leave well alone! I am very content, and relaxed, I can say without fear or favour, they are fantastic aids for my needs, the best aids, by a country mile, that I have ever owned, they ain’t perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but the perfect solution hasn’t been invented yet, I am extremely fortunate… Cheers Kev 
it’s a mission! You will eventually get there… I saw a set of Lumity Trials ’s on eBay for £900, only problem was they where rechargeable, but at £900 for the pair, that’s an excellent buy… Cheers Kev 
Doncaster UK
Canada (Toronto) YYZ
) and so I decided to find a local pub. Eventually I end up at one which was well dodgy (do you remember that scene in the 1st Star Wars film when Obi-one-kenobi and Luke Skywalker meet Han Solo in the Inn full of aliens… ?). Anyway, the music was tremendously loud and thumping. I go up to the bar, but unlike my experience around Xmas time with the Vivante, this time I can hear the barman above the cacophony - incredibly. I sit down opposite a big screen and can hear the voices of a group of speakers above the noise floor, but not make them out, which is OK, as they are 3 to 4 meters away. I check the Automatic program, and it is correctly, automatically set to “speech in loud noise”. So this for me is fantastic progress, as I could not make out any voices in this environment with the Vivantes. This is no slur on the Vivantes - I just do not think it was suitable for my loss and/or it was not optimised correctly. I am enjoying the music - but it is too loud (even in the loud noise program) - which I planned to rectify later (see below). Will post further experiences, but need to go out again with friends/family.