Is there any programming the audi can do with the Phonak Roger On?

Aren’t these settings for Roger accessories?
Perhaps @Zebras or @kevels55 might know a thing or two.

Yes, but it’s specific to the hearing aid not specific to the Roger On. The Roger On has some minor volume offset adjustability, but otherwise it’s the hearing aids that get adjusted.

We verify our FMs, but it’s rare that I need to make too many adjustments. I expect many places do not verify their FMs.

One catch is that you have to adjust the aids in Target, then try the Roger, you can’t do it live.

@Neville said:

We verify our FMs, but it’s rare that I need to make too many adjustments. I expect many places do not verify their FMs.

When I was at school, my hearing aids and FM system were put into some sort of box and the EasyGain adjusted on the FM depending on what the box was told.

Have no idea what it was testing tho.

@Baltazard said:

Aren’t these settings for Roger accessories?

Yes. I found solving the issue of Upward Masking massively helps hearing less background noise via the Roger Mic.

I also found Dual Microphone behaviour works best for me.

Yes, your educational audiologist was verifying your FM and making some minor adjustments to try to better match prescriptive targets.

Pediatric audiologists sometimes have slightly more rigorous behaviours, which makes sense given that children are more limited in their ability to give feedback on what their hearing aids are doing.

@Neville said:

We verify our FMs, but it’s rare that I need to make too many adjustments. I expect many places do not verify their FMs.

What do you mean by “verify FMs”? I have a Roger ON iN, so should I ask my audi if she verified the FM?

We check them on the testbox with the hearing aids to make sure they are meeting prescriptive gain targets.

Interesting! My audi has never done this with my Rogers, and I definitely feel that when in a noisy restaurant, they pick up way too much ambient noise to be useful. So I just end up putting the Roger away and going into Speech in Loud Noise on my Phonak Lumity Life aids. Not perfect either, but definitely cuts out BACKGROUND noise.

@1Bluejay Tonight I used the procedure that some have suggested here on the forum. Used the Roger On in a noisy restaurant and put my HAs on mute. Worked great and I was able to converse comfortably with my wife.

Hey Raylock, I am SO glad that worked for you! Based on an earlier thread about this, I asked my audi yesterday if I could also have a “mute” added to the on/off button program.

She said that with my hearing loss, if I MUTE the aids and only get sound through the Roger, I may not even hear enough to stream. I didn’t put it to the test, but I know what she’s saying. I can NOT EVEN HEAR using earbuds or headphones unless my aids are in my ears and turned on.

Case in point: today I had my first ever MRI. I warned the techs that after my aids come out, normal conversation as we know it ceases - completely. I would need to go feet first into the MRI tube cuz if they need to flag me, it’s gonna have to be with a piece of paper and something written on it.

Before starting the MRI, the tech asked what kind of music I’d like to listen to as he placed a pair of headphones on me. Um. Guffaw! I told him it wouldn’t matter what was playing. I wouldn’t hear it. So the test commences. I didn’t HEAR the noise as much as I FELT it. (kinda creepy, too! especially the first 5 min of BONGING like a rapid heartbeat!)

But then, towards the end of the 30 min, I could faintly detect Elton John’s “Yellow Brick Road”. That made me smile! It was super faint in the headphones, but I could still hear a smidge of it. And there you are! I was “muted” without aids in the MRI tube, headphones on BLASTING music (prob’ly jacked up to 150 dB?) and barely able to hear it.

Cinderblocks. That’s what hangs on the sides of my head.

When you mute the hearing aids, the Roger on still streams at full volume.