Jabra Enhance Pro 20 same as ReSound Nexia 9?

Glad to hear from someone who has them. The only ones I heard from were Costco. Obviously they are going to say they are identical. Nobody was able to tell me if they are made in the same plant as Resound. With Costco’s return policy, I am fine with trying them but I read a lot of reviews where the HA’s quit working shortly after the return window closed.

Audiologists say they are the same, based on using the same programming software

@mr.smithster said:

I believe they are exactly the same.

Exactly.

There are multiple models of Nexias and only 1 app in the app stores, so the end user apps (IOS ad Android) serve multiple Nexia models. I believe there is one fitting app for all the Nexia models.

The Omnia 7s have fewer adjustment options than the 9s. The EP10s have the same number of options as the Omnia 9s. That doesn’t prove the EP10 are Omnia 9s.

The same receivers work on all levels of the Omnias and Jabra EP10s.

I, too, believe the EP 10s are the same as Omnia 9s and the EP 20s are the same as Nexia 9s, but I also believe we have highly suggestive circumstantial evidence, that’s all.

@philbob57 said:

I, too, believe the EP 10s are the same as Omnia 9s and the EP 20s are the same as Nexia 9s

They are exactly the same which has been reported countless times on the forum, ok so Jabra are rebranded ReSound models.

@philbob57 said:

I also believe we have highly suggestive circumstantial evidence, that’s all.

@Ryan4 said:

Nobody was able to tell me if they are made in the same plant as Resound.

Its confirmed 100% they are the same, Jabra DO NOT make HAs everything is made and supplied by GN ReSound, just for your reference Beltone are also exactly the same as Jabra/ReSound models.

@Ryan4 said:

Obviously they are going to say they are identical.

@user990 said:

They are close cousins, but not exactly the same.

They are identical, they even use the EXACT same software called SmartFit.

@Ryan4 said:

I am fine with trying them but I read a lot of reviews where the HA’s quit working shortly after the return window closed.

Please show your source for this statement.

@tenkan said:

They are exactly the same which has been reported countless times on the forum, ok so Jabra are rebranded ReSound models.

We know:

Jabra Pro 10s and Resound Omnias and Jabra Pro 20s and ReSound Nexias use the same fitting software, user control software. accessories, receivers.

Omnia 3, 5, and 7 use the same s/w, accessories, receivers as the the Omnia 9s and EP10s.

Nexia 3, 5, and 7 use the same s/w, accessories, receivers as the Nexia 9s and EP20s.

The support info for Jabra is the same as the support info for ReSound. When I was at Costco 10 days ago, I saw stuff with ReSound branding on it. Very few people doubt that Jabras are rebranded ReSounds. But no one has conclusively proven which ReSounds…

It’s important to know how one knows things. It’s crucial to understand the difference between knowledge and belief. Journalists, at least before the age of 24 hour updates, used to be required to have 2 independent sources for their reports. It was assumed that ‘2 independent sources’ meant something like ‘2 independent sources who have first hand knowledge’.

A corollary is that it doesn’t matter how many people without first hand knowledge make an assertion. People without first hand knowledge just don’t know.

A lot of people make claims on the 'net. I think it’s really important to examine those claims carefully.

I don’t claim that the EP 20s are Nexia 9s. I don’t claim the EP 20s are NOT the Nexia 9s. As stated, I believe the EP 20s are Nexia 9s - but all we’ve got is circumstantial evidence.

If I’ve missed posts by ReSound engineers, I may owe everybody an apology.

This is important. One of the reasons societies all over the world are being torn apart is that people believe lots of attractive lies instead of reading critically. Surely believing an opinion about Jabras is a fact is a very different from believing, say, that it’s necessary to murder neighbors who speak a different language or observe a different religion, but … we’ll all be better off if we stop conflating opinion with fact. Wishful thinking, I know…

Well I just don’t know what to say, I mean your “belief” that maybe they could be “something else” because you haven’t seen/read anything that the “ReSound engineers” say is… I mean you only know what you don’t know right?
You don’t want to “believe” the facts in front of you and that’s ok, an opinion is fine and your entitled to it, but trying hard to discredit what’s in front of you is not doing anyone any favours, but just wanted to say again they are the 9’s

Cheers

@tenkan said:

Oh me, ok so the most obvious real world ,is that they use the same software and are made by the same manufacturer use the same parts and use the exact same accessories, even the App is the same, here’s a screenshot, you’ll notice the GN badge of honour!

This only proves that Jabra is owned by GN. It doesn’t prove that Nexia and Jabra are identical.

As Philbob57 says we only have circumstantial evidence. Nothing more.

@Ryan4 said:

This only proves that Jabra is owned by GN.

Ha ha that’s so funny, what it actually proves is your not exactly sure what to make of it, but ok then please share your inside knowledge of how Jabra is a completely different and new HA to the masses, I’m interested!

Hold up, everything is okay, your welcome to debate your views, certainly don’t let anything I say get in the way of that.

@philbob57 said:

I, too, believe the EP 10s are the same as Omnia 9s and the EP 20s are the same as Nexia 9s, but I also believe we have highly suggestive circumstantial evidence, that’s all.

As do I. And I have seen no evidence to the contrary. Nor have I seen any evidence to the contrary from anyone else. Nor do I expect to.

@tenkan said:

Well I just don’t know what to say,

I don’t understand your intransigence. Except for one argument, everything about the 9s and the EP x0s is true for the 3s, 5s, and 7s. The one thing that’s unique to the EPs and the 9s is the number of variations for some controls (noise suppression, for example, IIRC - 5 levels for 9s, 4 levels for 7s).

But those are likely to be just s/w switches. It’s usually cheap and easy to alter s/w switches to differentiate products from each other. Maybe EP10s and 20s are slightly souped up 7s made to look like 9s. But maybe the Jabras, 7s, 5s, and 3s are all just detuned 9s.

I haven’t seen any memo from engineering to marketing explaining what ReSound is doing. Inthe absence of that sort of definitive document, I don’t know what’s going on with ReSound production. You don’t know, either, but you insist that you do. How come?

Note that I agree with you in believing EPx0s to be the same as ReSound 9s. It’s just that I know it’s an opinion, and you keep pushing it as a fact.

There’s a lot of junk science. Pushing opinions as facts is one way to support junk science. That’s why I belabor this point.

Please do not respond with nothing more than you have now. What you have does not support anything more than a guess. Bring us something new that proves you do, in fact, know that Pro 20s are identical to Nexia 9s except for external branding.

Jabra’s HAs do not seem to be discussed in the '23 annual report. There’s a hearing division and a consumer/gaming division. Jabra is discussed in the 2nd area - but not Jabra HAs.

@philbob57 said:

Except for one argument, everything about the 9s and the EP x0s is true for the 3s, 5s, and 7s

No wrong ,the 9 and Jabra has more features in the noise reduction, expansion and wind guard settings over the 5 and 7’s they also have more channels (17)

@philbob57 said:

But those are likely to be just s/w switches. It’s usually cheap and easy to alter s/w switches to differentiate products from each other.

So what, who cares if it’s cheap or not, doesn’t make any difference but it’s what makes Jabra the same as the 9!

@philbob57 said:

Maybe EP10s and 20s are slightly souped up 7s made to look like 9s. But maybe the Jabras, 7s, 5s, and 3s are all just detuned 9s

Again no " maybe" we already know the 3,5,7 are “detuned” because they have less features AND less channels.

@philbob57 said:

I haven’t seen any memo from engineering to marketing explaining what ReSound is doing

Ha, what makes you think they’d do this, no one does that, you reckon they should be putting together papers explaining “the inside workings” of how they manufacturer/sell Jabra to Costco? Your dreaming.

@philbob57 said:

I don’t know what’s going on with ReSound production.

Finally you got something right.

@philbob57 said:

You don’t know, either, but you insist that you do. How come?

Have you heard that old saying, I can’t see the forest through all the trees?

@philbob57 said:

It’s just that I know it’s an opinion, and you keep pushing it as a fact.

More then an “opinion” i can only go with the facts that are already available, you have presented nothing more than your own opinions expressed, nothing…not one thing.

@philbob57 said:

There’s a lot of junk science. Pushing opinions as facts is one way to support junk science. That’s why I belabor this point

Come on, give everyone just one piece of evidence to support your opinion, I can’t agree more there’s a ton of “junk science” out there especially in this regard.

@philbob57 said:

Please do not respond with nothing more than you have now.

Excuse me, you don’t decide who replies to your posts, this is a public place for everyone, my points have been made.
Your posts “smell like a troll”

@philbob57 said:

Bring us something new that proves you do, in fact, know that Pro 20s are identical to Nexia 9s except for external branding.

Your definitely trolling here…

@philbob57 said:

Jabra’s HAs do not seem to be discussed in the '23 annual report. There’s a hearing division and a consumer/gaming division. Jabra is discussed in the 2nd area - but not Jabra HAs.

Say what, what does this prove? oh nothing right just thought you’d throw in another “opinion”