Phonak lumity L90 experiences

Can it be blocked from the mobile app?

@Dranaskhan said:

mobile app?

Yes. There are people here who love autosense and folks who change default program to a single program. They will automatically switch to bt streaming when a call comes in, and then when the call ends, it returns to default program (which is autosense unless you have it programmed for a different default program.) That default change needs to be done with the tools used by HCPs and DIYers.

There is also a remote that can be used to make the changes among programs. A long press on the down button can also change the program once forward in the rotation.

WH

I have L70 and wish I had the $ for the L90. I had the audiologist install the Speech in Loud Noise that the L90 has in Auto. I can switch to lock in a program using the app or pressing the buttons on the HA.

Why are you getting the lumity the Infinio are out? Their the most recent models.

@thequebecerinfranc said:

getting the lumity the Infinio are out? Their the most recent models

The infinios may not be available in all countries. Not sure if they are not available where they live, or if it is an economic decision.

WH

@DamonHill is right. The setup is key. I have Paradise P90 R hearing aids. Yours will be better than mine.

Are you comfortable with paradise? Please share your experience.

I am. Now. I had to leave the person who provided my hearing aids. I found a hearing aid specialist who has set them up right.

Setup is key. I believe that finding a good vendor who sets them up is as important as the model of hearing aid you buy.
Your hearing aids are a newer model than mine. You will have them a long time. I’m fascinated with the reviews I see for the new model of hearing aid that replaces the one you are buying.

My hearing aids are now three years old. Phonak has provided wonderful help. They replaced my hearing aids and charger. I’ve shared many comments in the past. I have different receivers with better wax guards now.
Hindsight—I should have found a better hearing aid provider sooner.

I hope this helps.

Caution…the lumity hearing aid is not waterproof. The receivers are not waterproof.
I understand you’re looking for a receiver in canal hearing aid
DaveL

I love auto sense. On the Infinios it is a different level altogether.

I have had KS10s, Paradise P50s, Lumity and now Infinio.

What I will say is this, you have to work at Autosense with your Audi.

When you do it is gold dust. If they are switching when you don’t think they should be get them reprogrammed. Each programme can be tweaked individually and you won’t get this in one or even two sittings. When you get all of them humming they are marvellous.

If you can donate a kidney (who needs two ) Sphere AI is more than worth it

I was first fitted with Marvel 70s which had AutoSense 3.0 in 2019. I didn’t really care for them as I struggled to hear in simple situations such as
grocery store check out clerk or the server at a fast food counter. As I reflect, I think part of the problem was my lack of understanding the limitations of what a hearing aid can do. For me background noise is a huge problem. Perhaps I should have been fitted with the Marvel 90s which had a higher level of noise rejection.

In 2023 I upgraded to Lumity 90 with AutoSense 5.0 The overall performance, while much improved, still left me struggling in noisy venues. I added a Roger On microphone to assist me in these situations. The 90 series gives you some extra built in programs within AutoSense, such as Speech in Loud Noise and Speech in Car which for me work quite well. In order to better understand why I was having trouble hearing in noisy venues, I began documenting each venue and noise level, using the mobile app called DecibelX. For me, when background is at 95 db and above, not even the Roger On was helpful. As a user, I’ve also learned that in a quiet setting, the size of the room effects ability to hear speech. Even if the rooms have the same exact level of background noise, the smaller the room, the better the speech quality. I hear television much better in my bedroom (18’ x 10’) much better than the family room (20’ x 15’)

Some have reported Bluetooth connectivity issues with the Lumity. I’ve had minimal issues with my Samsung android phone, usually resolved with a reboot of the phone. I tried Oticon More for one month and the Bluetooth was horrible.

What audiologists don’t tell clients is that within Phonak Target, the programming software, there are several “formulas” available to program the hearing aids - all of which have different characteristics that will effect your ability to hear speech. Audiologists seem to favor the “NAL NL-2” programming formula, I prefer Phonak’s proprietary “Adaptive Phonak Digital”

Having hearing aids programmed using Real Ear Method (REM) is a very debatable topic. Audiologists who use it, defend it passionately and others who don’t seem to mock it. I had my Marvel 70s programmed using REM and the results were worse than without REM. I consulted an audiologist who does use REM and I my question was “will REM help me or anyone else hear conversation better in noisy environments?” The response was no. If you do enough research, by far the biggest complaint amongst hearing aid users is inability to hear speech in high background noise. So regarding REM, my response would be what’s the point?

In summary, I think the Lumity 90 is a very good hearing aid, but even the best hearing aid won’t help you unless you have an audiologist that is expert with Phonak Target, and is willing to take whatever time is necessary to fine tune the aids to your satisfaction.

100% on your last paragraph. The Audi is more important than the aids imho.

Personal experience of REM for me was that it was significantly better than without.

Def need to work with the Audi over a few sessions for tweaking and across multiple settings too