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Dr Cliff: OTC Hearing Aid Companies have lost Billions
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Dr. Cliff’s presentation brings to mind any cable news channel, take your pick: CNN, Fox, MS Now. One side fits all. Listening to Cliff Olson today, you would not know of the success of Elehear or Apple Air Pods Pro. I especially appreciate him saying that “according to some anecdotal reports” the return rates of ’s is over 50%. And “none of them have lived up to the laboratory testing data”. (Please someone get him Soundly.com’s email address.) And “there is no sound value proposition”.
Cliff Olson has made excellent videos, especially his reviews of the major brands of prescription .
This video does not meet his standards.
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Dr Cliff has been an supporter from the beginning. His opinion is his opinion and that he can openly say he was wrong tells you it isn’t a one-sided story in his case. I thought it was an interesting starting point for a discussion and he made a lot of relevant points. You can disagree with him if you want, but think you’re incorrect if you think this video didn’t meet his usual standards.
The Wall Street Journal2 has one company reporting a 40% return rate as their reason for shutting up shop.
If people are wondering why hearing aids are so expensive, look to the average $800 cost required to attract a single new patient.
Most people with mild hearing loss just don’t want hearing aids, as shown by the 0.6% increase in hearing aid adoption following the introduction of OTCs.
We’ll see if Samsung’s new galaxy buds hearing aid feature4 co-developed with NAL and using the prescription formula does any better. It might be that bluetooth earbuds are a better way to achieve the goal of what OTCs promised.
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If you haven’t noticed, expressive faces in thumbnails encourage people to click on videos. All of the top youtubers do it, because it works. I don’t know why there is so much hate for Dr Cliff here. He has done more in modern times to educate consumers on best practice audiology than anyone else on the planet.
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Na mate nobody hates him, hates a pretty powerful word to use, it's more a bit like a hyperactive used car salesman at times, but obviously it's YT that does the bait advertising, just makes it all so silly, some are just so bad in a "Highschool jinks" way.
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I'm not sure they've lost $Billions.
Our range has been going about a six weeks and is ticking over. The reject/return rate is about 5-10% but that doesn't really do as much damage as rejected product that is dispenser fitted: simply because the up-front time exposure is way less.
You can run pretty 'lean' in terms of business - you don't really need store-fronts or expensive employees, other than for fulfilment by mail and the back end is pretty easy to automate with current 'store' software.
My question to Dr Cliff would be: if the Ai denoising obtained by our current OTC systems is about 15dB and the client has App tunable aids, why couldn't they obtain a similar satisfaction rate vs. dispenser fits? Especially over legacy products: not everyone has Sphere money/insurance.
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Where is this $800 number from? Providers don't act like there's much customer acquisition cost. I can barely get basic information out of many when I call up ready to purchase aids. They want to waste my time and money hoping to hook me in later.
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They probably don't want to give you that sort of information without you turning up for an appointment because they want to ensure you're a genuine customer and not a competitor checking up on the competition.
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I'm glad your range is appearing to be doing better, but you're also not in the US market which is what Dr Cliff is talking about. How long is your return period?
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I don't think so. I can give them my insurance info which they can verify in their system. In some cases I even had a relationship with the practice such as through the side or from other testing. In one case my insurer reached out. There are a few exceptions but in my calling around it seems if there is high acquisition cost they are not acting that way. Of course they want to avoid taking insurance even if in network and somehow get away with that form of balance billing.
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That's pretty short. Do many UK practices offer a longer return or is it shorter just for distance selling?
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Yeah I was thinking the same, 2 weeks doesn't seem long, especially with shipping times etc
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Interesting. I don't think the US has return period requirements that vary by method of sale, but I do wonder whether the state law where the provider or customer is located controls for aids shipped to a customer.
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user490, I was kinda thinking the same thing. I would like to see a breakdown of the $800 "customer acquisition cost". Maybe Cliff Olson got it from " many anecdotal reports".
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