@DaOldGuy said:
Hi all.
OK - here’s an off the wall question. I am 66, been wearing ITH HA for 20 plus years. I am due for new ones. I am looking at Bernafon BTE with RITE Verite 9 (Vantage) or Chronos 9 (Canteo) with the Soundgate and TV Adapter. Has anyone connected the TV adapter to a sound board so that the HA can be used as monitors for the sound system?
Suggestions / comments / ???
To add- I tried the Chronos 9’sThey were my first choice, but neither the audi nor the Bernafon tech could make them loud enough at soft to normal levels. It <could> be an issue with Bernafon’s “auto gain” but, since the B tech couldn’t make it work, and their tech sup was a bit lacking, my audi let me try the Bridge 12 HP aids which I have.
For musicians the next part is very important - in fact, I would say a determining factor on which aids you buy, that is rarely discussed or mentioned in the spec sheets:::::::::::
Performing musicians need more input headroom than normal, even a jazz combo can produce 105 db spikes, likewise a big band or orchestra.The Chronos aids <should> be better, since they have Live Music Plus, and that is supposed to extend the input headroom to 111db, and change the amplification to more or less linear. They would work if the auto gain can be made to work- possibly defeat it. The Bridge aids are nice, but be careful- when I went to buy them, my audi and I asked Rexton tech sup about the input level and we were told it was 130 db (!) I asked twice and I was reassured by a Rexton tech that number was correct. But the aid distorted at loud levels, and it sounded to me a lot like digital front end distortion, not speak or microphone overload, a sound I am familiar with. I subsequently found out that Rexton and Siemens aids will digitally “clip” at 105 db. The aid <should> have a way to limit the front end without clipping, but it doesn’t. For most people, that is tolerable - for musicians,not so much. Further, I found out that Rexton does not test their aids above 100db.
A suggested workaround is to cover the aids’ mic with a piece of cellophane. I have not tried this, but it may work for you. But frankly, you should not be forced into trying to cobble together a separate on stage sound system for yourself, when your aids should be doing the job for you. Those that offer suggestions, well, I have yet to find one who has ever been on stage, or will come on stage to experience what happens on stage. Marshall Chasin is about the only guy that has a grip on this with his Live Music Plus, but the concept has been around for years beginning with Mead Killion’s K-AMP- an analog circuit for live must. I had it and it worked, so DO NOT let anybody tell you it can’t be done / never been done, or you’re asking too much.
And, as seems to be the norm in the hearing aid business, nobody has any clue about how to set a hearing aid for a performing musician. Don’t be fooled by the so called “music” programs. Almost always, that is geared towards listening to record music - much compression when the volume gets loud and usually too much limiting resulting in loss of definition and muddiness of sound. You MUST “audition” your audi to see if he can do the job and has the right gear to do it. Otherwise, you and he will just get frustrated, and you won’t get the full benefit of our aids.