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Here's my 99% tip for how to get organic analog sound on hearing aid via Phonak Target

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Hello everyone, here’s Jason.

I will explain to you how to get organic like pure analog sound on hearing aid on Phonak Target and it wasn’t that easy task for me. It takes hours of figuring it out and made it through. According to another post explaining that in order to get analog sound, AutoSense OS needs to be disabled and put on calm situation. Make sure to put zero on omni directional and off on NoiseBlock. If there are any features, turn them off but WhistleBlock might need to balance it out due to feedback. Put on linear from Global Setting and just make sure to put comfortable target gain number. If linear sounds too strong, you can either put lower target gain or go for Semi-linear for awhile and see if you like it. At last, put (m) on all 120 by each that you already did feed there. Do not put UCL (m) on 120 db if you don’t have (x) from specific match number of own audiogram.

I spent hours on subway for two weeks trying to figure out how to reduce that kind of unnecessary annoying then found out that UCL (m) on each 120db is working and the noise is reduced and I actually speak very well and can hear everyone chatting around me. My parents and siblings face looked stunned at family dinner and said it’s impossible. Like I told them and my friends, impossible can become possible when you fight for war with your hearing aid, you can find a solution to get best sound of your life that you need for your future. It’s pretty simple for me, why would I want to hear more than 120 dB? No one would want to hear that too loud and unnecessary sound. Subway, bus or police siren that making noise are piece of cake to me right now because of UCL (m) and God blesses to Phonak for this. Good luck.

Why would you want to hear more than 105dB even? But that aside…

If you start noticing some sound distortions, especially with music, it might be nice to try to set the directly at a lower value, instead of using the .
I found that live piano sound gets some dissonance due to UCL. My university audiologist comfirmed that this was an issue and showed me a few quite wonky , which were messed up due to Phonak’s UCL handling.

It’s 120 as hopefully as you do mean by that. When hearing some distortion, it can be either small error on test or using damped (white filter) ear hook. It did happen to me before. I was testing between with and without it. Undamped definitely sounds more clear and nice sharp during noisy situation when the feature: undamped is on via the software.

With damped, forget it, couldn’t hear well everywhere because of distortion. About small error on audiogram might be possible, it also did happen to me so I told my audiologist that it sounds doesn’t look right to me so she tested on me in the soundbox to see if I was supposed to hear extra 5 dB on each point of x on audiogram then it works. For instance, I am not sure why my previously audiologist put me on 60 db on 250, three 100 db on 500, 750 and 1k then 105 on 2k, 120 db on 2.5 and 3k and also 100 db for 8k. That’s one doesn’t sound normal to me and too much soft and wobbly. My currently audiologist put me on 65db on 250, 100 db on 500, 105 db on 750k, 105 db on 1k, 110 db on 2k, 115 db on 2.5k and 3k then 110 db on 4k and 90 db on 8k by accurate and focus on testing in soundbox to ensure that I hear comfortable. The audiogram test shows smooth curve. My speech test has jumped to 90% from 50% because of this (m).

There’s another way, if you hear too soft or distortion, tell your audiologist to allow you to use your hearing aid on during audiogram test awhile UCL (m) is on, she/he can find this tiny problem and fix it for you like increase or decrease dB somewhere on audiogram test.

Believe it or not, my senior audiologist was surprised to hear my voice because I never used my voice with her since two years due to missing sound on my hearing aid.

At last, I do understand that individual is different of own and nothing can be perfect until satisfied for need.

120dB is WAY too much for me.
Linear fitting leads to either I don’t hear anything or its much too loud in my highs (1kHz+).
It looks like you either have a mild loss or -that’s what I believe- you have a conductive loss. In the latter case 120dB is absolutely okay.

Mine is severe to profound level. doesn’t really have anything with that loudness. It’s uncomfortable level to set where it doesn’t go over. I set UCL (m) on each dot of all 120 that match to own test. I speak pretty much clear and hear better with UCL set. My speech test at audiology has improved to 90% from 50% as I mentioned in the last post. My audiologist said if the sound is too annoying and do not feel comfortable, it’s good idea to set UCL on audiogram to reduce some noise. I think it works very well. Sometimes when increase dB on own audiogram, it can cause some loudness. It means either try to decrease dB by reduce that loudness or bring down Target Gain. If my way works very well, I guess that’s good. But everyone is different than other so perhaps I got lucky with right spot.

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