mthomas_uk, you got some good answers above, and while your detailed questions make my BRAIN implode at this early hour (haven’t even finished my cuppa cawfee yet), I’ll give a stab here and there, cuz I TOTALLY empathize with the ridiculously convoluted and almost Black Magic needed to get this stoopid Roger mic paired + connected to a pair of aids. Cuz that’s what we’re wanting in a nutshell. Licenses are just obfuscation heaped on top.
1 - If I bought a Roger On In from say ebay, how do you physically transfer the licence for 2 hearing aids? - Do you need a device or something? I’ve got my own programmer and the software needed.
As firenzel mentions, the Roger ON iN (prior to V3) would be sold from Phonak with the TWO licenses already on them. You xfer ONE license to ONE aid, then xfer the OTHER license to the OTHER aid. (stoopid! why can’t we just pair + connect both aids to the mic like we do with cell phones?)
2 - How would you know that the Roger device does not have the licence transferred to some hearing aids already?
Weeeeelllll, a big hint would be that you’re unable to xfer the license onto a single aid! That means NO license is on the device, which could be the case if someone xferred the license off that Roger mic and onto a pair of aids?
3 - If you bought a Roger On In, and transferred the licence to your hearing aids, is there anything to stop anyone transferring the licence back out? (I’m not sure how that would happen, but suppose the device was faulty, how can phonak move the code out of your hearing devices if they were to send a replacement?
It is so ridiculously convoluted getting the license ON to each aid that only a masochist would go there. And they’d need to reverse the steps for xferring the license ONE aid at a time. If you manage to murder your Roger mic as I did by stabbing it to death in that itty bitty pinhole on back, then if it’s under warranty you can send it back in to Phonak. I got a brand new ON iN replacement for the mic I sent in. That new mic would have the two licenses on it and either you or your audi would xfer it onto you aids (hmmmm… they’d have first remove the old license from the defective device?! Uncharted water…)
4 - Does one Roger On In Mic cover the licence for 2 hearing aids or only 1?
YES! I love the simplicity of this question. Each Roger ON iN mic has just the TWO licenses on it - one for each aid (assuming you wear TWO aids)
5 - Is it cheaper to get 2x Roger X (03) and transfer them out?
I don’t know the going price of a Roger X, but I was bullied by Phonak into buying two (redundant) Roger ON iN mics cuz I have two pairs of Phonak Lumity Life rechargeable aids that only give me 14 hrs/day use, so I wanted to swap the mics and aids as I needed. Yeah, I’m a cash cow for Phonak, but they seem to have resolved that crazy logic with the Roger ON iN V3 that has limitless licenses.
Hope you get a working mic, cuz they are VERY good in certain situations! Also, if you have myPhonak app on your phone, it wil DISPLAY the status of your Roger license on each aid. That is really helpful cuz I spent HOURS trying to get a license onto on aid and myPhonak confirmed it was unsuccessful.