There’s some lags in YouTube too, especially with Jimmy Kimmel’s videos. I don’t understand why the timing is never right. I think they just uploaded the subs, without syncing it to the audio.
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There’s some lags in YouTube too, especially with Jimmy Kimmel’s videos. I don’t understand why the timing is never right. I think they just uploaded the subs, without syncing it to the audio.
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In most media players there is a slide to adjust audio to video (in seconds or parts of seconds). It’s analogue to the slider you would use if the subtitles are (a bit) out of sync. Lag is actually quite common an easily fixed.
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The majority of Youtube is still auto-captioned by Google rather than uploaded captions. These are referred to as “craptions” by a number of more prominent differently abled community vloggers (an epithet I wholeheartedly agree with).
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Now that so many people are wearing masks, I realize just how much I get cues from lips.
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Gotcha. I was watching Walter Williams giving a talk last night. I could understand the host perfectly. But when Williams would turn to the left and sort of lower his chin especially at the end of a sentence I could not understand him. So I am lip reading more than I realized. The host (I forget his name) was a regular TV commentator and had perfect elocution. That makes a huge difference for us folks.
I have noticed a lot of speakers trail off at the end of a sentence.
A little funny here. I speak my posts rather than typing. It is much easier but there are many mistakes. Matter of fact when I said the word “elocution” it typed in yellow cushion. 
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I remember things that David Letterman used to say about the Apple Newton when it came out. The old and quickly withdrawn Newton used to mess up the spelling of spoken words in the same way with hilarious results.
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Training off at the end of a sentence is common. And if someone tells a joke, the punchline is usually trailed off as well.
Sometimes I just get tired of asking people to repeat.
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My daughter trails off (as most folks do) and when I ask her to repeat the last word, she repeats the whole sentence, many times trailing off.
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Slightly off topic, but reading lips also usually only works well with your local English. Mouth/lip shape in speaking is different across English speaking cultures. I’ve been told by my audi that it is next to impossible for me (Australian) to read a person who is Indian speaking in English with their accent for example. Their mouth is a completely different shape when pronouncing vowels. And so is the sound for that matter. It comes down to lip and mouth and tongue position.
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This is one of the ways you can learn to lip read. Put your TV on mute with captions and watch their mouth’s.
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I disagree a bit.
In terms that yes, if you see the person first time in your life, then it’s going to be hard no matter what you do. But, I find it definitely helps to figure out what is said, no matter the accent, if I also can see the lips.
Experience is from meetings with people of different origins and English interpretation, me also not being native English speaker.
Not looking at the lips almost totally means having no clue what they said, while looking enabled me to get the gist out of it.
I didn’t try someone with beard, I think that’ll be horrible 
So, if you use lip reading as a help to understand, that should work most of the time.
But if you only depend lip read, then I completely agree with you that those differences in lip movement makes it unusable without a lot of training first.
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They repeat the whole sentence in the same volume, intonation snd trailing off at the end. My husband does the exact same thing. I even repeat the part of sentence that I heard and understood.
He will still repeat the sentence.
. I do read lips. It is helpful.
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I taught myself how to lip read when l was very young. My mother used to tell my dad, “Don’t repeat what you said, say it in a different way”
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I would think using the TV to learn how to read lips would be incredibly frustrating and would convince a person that reading lips is impossible. And how would you know you’re getting it right. Ironically when I was younger as I was losing my hearing I found myself focusing on people’s lips when speaking. I would get upset with myself and wonder why I wasn’t making eye contact which was supposed to be a big deal. Now I assume I was subconsciously compensating for my failing hearing that I wasn’t really aware of or at least I didn’t know was a progressive loss.
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I have never attempted to be a lip reader. But my wife has always hated commercials on TV, so she always mutes them. Over the years I’ve caught myself recognizing what someone is saying on TV only from reading their lips. I wouldn’t say it’s very frequent, but at this point it’s not uncommon.
What surprised me the most was the time my wife had muted the TV during a commercial break, then left the room. A new program came on, and some talking head was on the screen yammering just as my wife came back. As she was getting settled, I not only recognized what the guy was saying, but I was certain he was saying it with a British accent. I told her to unmute the TV and I was right.
We learn what we need to. Sometimes whether we try or not.
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I have considered lip-reading, but oy seems like it would be very difficult to do; especially if you are not used to it. How do you start? You see, all my life up to about 47 (a mild loss in my 20s?) my hearing was at least good enough to concentrate on people’s eyes, not very often their lips when communicating. That is until I began missing words. I am a bare- bones beginner in lip-reading. How do you start from rock bottom? Any free or low-cost lessons online or elsewhere?
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I never realized I was reading lips until COVID-19 hit and everybody was wearing masks. Now I realize I’m not hearing as well when the face is turned away because I can’t see their lips.
My bank still insists on keeping that huge plexiglass in front of the tellers with only about 8 inches underneath to pass paperwork back and forth. Last time when I complained to the manager she said I could conduct my business in an office or in the lobby. No plexiglass but masks. I wonder if they feel that a bullet cannot penetrate plexiglass. I guess they must be getting sick less often as no one is breathing on them.
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I never realized I did until the masks came on. What a surprise to realize how much I relied on it. When talking to my doctor he finally took off his mask because I kept saying, what? I wanted to make sure I knew what he was saying.
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