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For you guys that use , I’ve just read about full internal model, is this a game changer for some?

Envoy Medical Receives FDA Approval to Expand Pivotal Clinical Trial for...61

WHITE BEAR LAKE, MINNESOTA — Envoy Medical, Inc. (NASDAQ: COCH), a hearing health company pioneering fully implanted hearing solutions, today announced that it has received approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration () to expand its...

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Perhaps yes. However, despite my age (36) I am rather old-schooled preferring updateable external part (sound processor).

Nevertheless, it could be very, very interesting to have fully implanted device and… hearing aid on the same side with technology, streaming capability, etc.

Yeh maybe sometime way into the future after they have refined all the glitches. But not for me I prefer my processor on my ear.

How long would the battery last? A pacemaker lasts 10 years. A SNS battery lasts 8 years then they need changing. How do you change a fully implanted battery?

I have the 5 series array and can’t have an without the magnet being removed. How would you have an MRI with fully implanted CI?

Oh that’s very interesting, I believe this is something the future holds promising results for.

In reply to @Bimodal_user

@Bimodal_user said:

The newest cochlear implants allow for even 3-Tesla MRI without magnet removal.

Yes, sort of. It’s not quite so straightforward. The location being scanned, proximity to the implant, type of scan duration, some other technical aspects… they all come into it. Source? Me. I needed a scan on something & had to find a 1.5T scanner. Most scanners in Sydney are 3T now, so finding a 1.5T scanner isn’t quite so straightforward. The duration of the scan required a lower magnetic strength to allow the required scan duration.

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That’s sounds reasonable but only for people who has relatively decent speech understanding treatable with hearing aids.

For another people who has poor speech recognition and most often plunging into increasing social isolation, possible depression and suicidal thoughts in some, an approach such as the one in the quote is downright dangerous. They can wait years for technology that still isn’t coming, and in the meantime they miss out on plenty of opportunities to enjoy life, which hearing from would allow. Not to mention about more difficult rehabilitation if someone unnecessarily procrastinate getting a CI.

Even when optical CIs will be released, that will be in far future and probably will have a bit of a bit of “childhood diseases” as with any new technology.

IIRC, a bit different approach of using optical technology was used in 1st generation of EarLens and that was very unreliable, so it isn’t proven option at the moment.

In reply to @secondarytrefoil

Yeah, I’m with you, but who knows the timeline? Five years, ten years, etc. I wish Envoy luck, but the history of failed internal is long and, unfortunately, depressing. Ten to fifteen years ago, M.I.T., Harvard, and MASS Eye & Ear all came together to attempt to build an invisible CI. Sad to say, it was a train wreck, and as far as I know, nothing came of it. But you have to admit that the three organizations trying to pull this off were certainly heay weight players.

In reply to @Bimodal_user

I don’t have decent speech understanding, my hearing is basically gone at any level of background noise, what else could one expect with 70 thresholds at the most important frequencies that might as well be dead. I can’t socialize with such hearing. And from the testimonies of cochlear implant users, cochlear implants aren’t going to provide me acceptable speech in noise nor even enjoyable music. I would enjoy life if I weren’t given false promises and instead raised among the deaf on equal terms. The industry sits on such obscene wealth it should do a better job.

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In reply to @Raudrive

For some of us it is true that the sounds like trash. I am , have had the CI for over two years and speech remains distorted helium and music is trashy. Hearing in noise is basically impossible and keeps me from some social situations. I have faithfully and literally done hours of rehab every day with no improvement. I am willing to admit to the possibility that I waited four years after losing hearing in that ear may have something to do with what I am experiencing. But I don’t think you should have said “This is a nonsense statement. Why say things that are incorrect or you know little about.” That’s just plain mean. I think you should apologize.

@greffkin said:

I think you should apologize.

Honestly I think the person that wrote the trash talk about should apologize. If that happens I would be more than happy to apologize myself. It gets old hearing trash talk about CI from people who are clueless about CI.

As far as you and your CI results I am sorry you have had bad luck. I do know it takes specific rehabilitation to get the most out of a CI. My first thoughts would be to block off the non-CI ear from sound. Force the CI to be the only source of sound to force your brain to learn the new sounds. This is very important. I have a friend who has struggled similar to you. His rehabilitation has fallen short. After 3-4 years he is finally blocking the other ear to rehab the CI.

I’ve done all that. I have a great audi who listens carefully to me, advises me, and cares about me. I’m sick of rehab but I keep on doing it anyway.

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