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I have Phonak Sphere I90-R.

I want to try self Programming. I have Target 11.0 installed. I plan on a Noahlink 2 wireless purchase soon.

At my first fitting I asked my provider to export my profile and settings from Target so I could import them into Target 11.0 at home. This would allow me adjustments and to restore settings back to the providers settings if I totally muck things up. A safety net if you will.

The provider sent me a file called Target_Fitting_10.21.25.tfdata

I am unable to get the Target S/W to import this .tfdata file extension. I think my Audiologist might be using Noah and the .tfdata file type is a Noah file and not a Target export.

I will see my audiologist soon and I will ask him to upgrade my to the new Ultra F/W and make some requested tweaks. I will ask him if he has the ability to exported the settings and profile from his Target so I can load import them into my Target 11.1 desktop application.

Has anyone on this forum successfully had there provider export from Target allowing them to import back into Target on their home machine?

If so, what is the file extension generated when exported from Target?

If the forum already as a thread and work flow on how to do this, I would appreciate any help.

Much thanks for helping a new DIY guy.

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@Cyberbarter said:

At my first fitting I asked my provider to export my profile and settings from Target so I could import them into Target 11.0 at home.

There’s no need to do this, make your own.

@Cyberbarter said:

This would allow me adjustments and to restore settings back to the providers settings if I totally muck things up

This is why I mentioned to you that you make up two clients in target, one to save your original audiology settings and one for your projects.

@Cyberbarter said:

I am unable to get the Target S/W to import this .tfdata file extension.

Need connected, but read above, no need just wait for your Noahlink wireless to arrive and DIY.

@Cyberbarter said:

I will see my audiologist soon and I will ask him to upgrade my HAs to the new Ultra F/W and make some requested tweaks.

You can do this yourself once your Noahlink wireless arrives.

@Cyberbarter said:

Has anyone on this forum successfully had there provider export from Target allowing them to import back into Target on their home machine?

Most people don’t do this? You DIY this, I wonder what your Audiologist thought you’d be doing with this file anyway?

@Cyberbarter said:

If the forum already as a thread and work flow on how to do this, I would appreciate any help.

As above.

Cheers

Thanks for the fast response tankan

My goal is to do exactly what you say “”.

I did have my provider give me a Target Fitting Report but there’s a lot of variables from that report I’d have to input into Target.

Until I’m comfortable using Target I prefer to have my provider export his session settings so that I can import them into target. I’m going to need to be able to import a configuration from my provider so that I can get back to a known good state if need be.

Tankan: If you have the capabilities, would you be so kind as to export a profile and a session settings from Target 11.1 and let me know what the file extension is that Target 11.1 created. That would be helpful for me. Much thanks.

@Cyberbarter said:

Until I’m comfortable using Target I prefer to have my provider export his session settings so that I can import them into target

Again you don’t need this, as I mentioned these settings are already stored in your right now, so all you do is connect your HAs to target and save this setting, next you can then “export” this to your desktop of a flash drive,once you start you project you’ll never go back ; )

Use the demo simulation mode and read the step by step guide I sent, to learn how to use target, it’s very easy,

The file extension is proprietary .nhax as far I can remember.

I think I understand now.

Correct me if I’m wrong.

Once my provider/audiologist has programmed my hearing aids that, configuration is stored in the hearing aids in some type of non=volatile memory.

When my Noalink 2 wireless Bluetooth shows up, I can launch Phonak Target 11.1 and the Target software will read/extract the configuration from my hearing aids and I can see the aids configuration information within Target. Then if I can Export from Target to get a backup that I can use to restore with a Target import at any time if I muckup anything.

You mention a demo sim. mode and a step by step guide that you sent. I do not have that info. Please resend. Thanks for all the help.

Yes that’s it, you’ll be good to go, I’ll resend step by step guide, the demo/simulation mode is in the target software.

Curious how others have handled this:

My audiologist is open and supportive overall, but understandably cautious about giving full, unlocked Target access. I’m not asking to do major programming or to bypass —just trying to get clarity on what a reasonable middle ground looks like.

Questions for those who’ve been through this:

  1. How did you frame the discussion when asking for some level of Target access?
    Was it presented as:

  • curiosity/education?

  • backup in case of travel issues?

  • ability to check session data?

  • or light troubleshooting?

  1. Did your audiologist prefer you make “view-only” connections?
    Or were they fine with limited gain adjustments as long as you kept backups?

  2. Did anyone agree to a workflow like:

  • You make tiny interim changes

  • You export the session

  • You send the export before your next real appointment
    This seems logical but I’m curious if others do it.

  1. Did your audiologist ever object, and how did you smooth it out?
    (Not asking for names or conflict stories—just strategies.)

  2. Any tips on maintaining a positive, respectful relationship while still being an informed, hands-on user?

I want to be responsible, avoid overwriting anything important, and keep my audiologist fully in the loop — just looking to learn how others keep that balance.

You asked on another post below.

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Hi there @aky13rx great your giving a go, be sure to read the user guides as it’s very helpful for setting up the first time, for those older Brio you’ll need the icube ll or HiPro, if you haven’t already got them it might not be worth the cost tho.

Tip for backup client data in Phonak Target 11.

In actual Target 11 versions you can use the bundled “TargetBackupTool.exe” backup tool which comes with Phonak Target.

To access this backup tool, open path:

Windows (C:) → Programms(x86) → Phonak → Phonak Target

Inside the folder Phonak Target you find executable: TargetBackupTool.exe

double click: TargetBackupTool (Target software needs to be closed in advance)

With this tool you can safe and restore backups for the complete client database of Target.

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