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Hi I’ve got an appointment next week and I am currently between using the phonak nova pr for about 2 hours a day for streaming and watching tv and also for a few hours every week with the partnermic the rest of the time at the moment I’m still using my phonak cros aids the rest of the time but they have developed a few little issues like when I put them in the sound isn’t always very clear and I’m not picking up on certain things like the door bell ringing I don’t have that issue when I have the nathos nova pr on and also the battery is not really lasting as well as it use to on my cros aids. My question is if they can’t sort out the issue’s I’m having while I am there as my post is very unreliable still after the pandemic I couldn’t trust them to even arrive if they fixed them and sent them to me as I never even received a letter in the post about my appointment I only found out by having to actually enquire last week via email as I didn’t want to miss an appointment because the guy I saw last time said that I should get an appointment in the next few months. I was thinking about maybe asking to try out the Oticon cros aids as they have the twin link technology but would they be compatible with my iPhone 13 pro max and also would they work with my current moulds or would they have to do a different style mould because if they need a different mould and won’t be compatible with my iPhone then I may just ask them to give me a new set of the same ones i have now I am hoping that eventually I’ll be able to use the phonak nathos nova all the time but at the moment that still isn’t the case yet and am finding myself needing my cros aids as well

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It’s a bit hard to read what you’ve written as it’s all in one sentence.

Have you asked for your settings from your Nathos Auto to be placed into your Nathos Nova?

@LRav said:

would they be compatible with my iPhone 13 pro max

I believe they are, since Oticon Cros are Bluetooth low energy, so they must work.

@LRav said:

would they work with my current moulds or would they have to do a different style mould

Not sure about this one, but I suspect that they have a different receivers.

@LRav said:

as I never even received a letter in the post about my appointment I only found out by having to actually enquire

Been there, done that…; Velcome to the NHS.

Questions:

  • Isn’t it better to stay with Phonak if you have most of your Aids + accessories from Phonak?
  • Sound perception I believe is different between Phonak and Oticon, so not sure if there is a learning curve?

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@zebras sorry I typed this post in a bit of a hurry yesterday. They copied over my current settings from the nathos auto to the nova when they first set it up but I’m still not able to use it all the time yet as I’m getting use to finding the right adjustments on the app still and also if I want to use it all the time I would have to use the partner mic every time I go out of my front door to compensate for the fact I don’t have the sound from the cros aid and at the minute that is not quite working as if the person who is wearing it walks to far ahead of me it automatically disconnects until I’m near enough to them for it to pick up the connection again. It works well in noisy situations where I’m sitting at a table with people and I like the restaurant setting etc but it just needs to be worked out for things like travel etc I don’t know if there are adjustments to the partnermic that can be done to stop it from disconnecting either through the app or by the audiologist but at the minute if I get to far away from someone who is wearing it the connection drops.

I’ve been able to use for a few hours a week out but not while travelling and a couple of hours a day while at home for streaming watching tv and answering the phone.

@Baltazard I was thinking about trying them because I got the impression at my last appointment that the place I’m at are in the process of switching there suppliers for the cros aids to oticon so I thought I would try them in case in the future they completely stop providing the phonak cros as I kind of got the impression that they were not going to be getting them anymore at some point in the future but not sure

@LRav said:

at the minute that is not quite working as if the person who is wearing it walks to far ahead of me it automatically disconnects until I’m near enough to them for it to pick up the connection again.

Unfortunately that’s the limitation to the Partner Mic. It’ll disconnect when you get too far away. Even the Roger will eventually disconnect if too far away as well.

What about asking for 2 x Nathos Nova and it being set up as a AmpCROS so slightly different but it’ll be kind of the same thing as your II.

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@Zebras mmmm that’s something to think about as it would be great if I could stick with the phonak and I do like the way the nathos nova works and I enjoy the sound quality so much and if possible I would like to stick with phonak how doe’s amp cros work? As if it is easy enough I will ask about that as then I will have the rechargeable and that is great and the improvement in sound quality compared to the cros 2 and not have to worry about the problem of if my audiologist ever stops getting the phonak cros altogether

Is not a normal way of providing a but it could work. It’s more hacking other programs to work as an AmpCROS.

Are you completely completely deaf in your other ear?

It’ll provide amplification to both ears (even if you don’t hear from one ear) but it’ll stream to both sides. So speech / sound coming in from your deaf side, you’ll hear it in your hearing / better ear.

It’s using the Speech in 360 program or other similar programs to act as the AmpCROS.

Have a search on this forum for people who have done it before.

The only issue is, it uses more battery power so your rechargeable’s may die quicker so it may not work? I don’t know.

AmpCROS is normally used for people who hear in both ears but don’t understand speech from one ear.

As there is no CROS for the Nathos Nova, the AmpCROS could be a way around it?

@zebras I think I’m pretty much deaf in my left ear I get some sensation in the left ear so not sure but will ask about this and see if its an option

@LRav

If you find you don’t like sensation or really loud sounds that you can pick up in your deaf ear, ask for the on your deaf side to have a less power so you don’t pick up sensation in your deaf ear but there’s power on your deaf HA side so it can transfer the sound to your better HA side.

I’m probably not making much sense.

Let me know if you don’t understand it and I can try and help more.

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@zebras it’s not a sensation I don’t like but more like a vibration in my left ear I think they called it vibrotactial when I mentioned it once before. I think I get how it works and I’ll discuss this with my audiologist at my appointment and see what he thinks and if it is an option. Would I lose any of my ability to stream through the nathos nova and use the partner mic if they did do me an amp cros?

Thank you very much for the help @Zebras it has certainly given me a possible way to use the nathos nova pr as I would like to and not have to worry about my cros aid which aren’t working in same way that they use to they are getting very problematic these days

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@LRav

To save battery, you don’t have to stay in the various programs like Speech in 360, or DuoPhone that would work as AmpCROS.

Where you find you don’t need to use the , you could revert back to using the AutoSense option.

When you’re using AutoSense, obviously your dead ear will be in AutoSense as well but you won’t hear from that side.

Then switch to the AmpCROS program if you’re in a situation where you would normally use the CROS.

That’s what I do.

Altho I hear from both ears, my left barely picks up anything so I use my Speech in 360 program as a version of the AmpCROS but I’m not in that program all the time.

Bluetooth and the Partner Mic will work even if you’re in the Speech in 360 program at the time.

The Speech in 360 program does need in my opinion, more adjustments to get it working well.

One more thing - If you do get another Nova for your dead ear with hardly any gain. Swapping the Bluetooth side to that side will make the battery last a lot longer BUT please note, you would have to wear your dead ear to hear the Bluetooth in your hearing ear if you do it that way.

@Zebras Thanks for that I hope that this option works below is a photo of my original audio gram before it changed which clears show the info on my left ear I don’t know if it means its completely dead or just got such a small amount of hearing left that it mean’’t it was unaidable but it has been that way since about 1985 when I lost hearing in left ear due to mumps

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@LRav

Yes the arrows on the crosses which is your left means no response so it means totally deaf.

The Speech in 360 program can be set to zoom left or right.

I’m not very good at working out which side you need but I believe you would need it to zoom to the left so it transmits to your right.

@zebras thank you for explaining that to me i think i will discuss the ampcros with my audiologist and see what they say and if they don’t agree to that then I’ll see if they can just sort out my current cros aids either by fixing them while I’m there or by just replacing them with a new pair and if they can’t get them then i will have to go with the oticon and see how they go but i hope that they can do the ampcros

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I’ve had my appointment they wouldn’t do the ampcros and didn’t seem to know anything about it. At first they where not even going to deal with my cros aids at all as i now have the nathos nova pr. The person i saw was after awhile willing to change the tubing. When i said that was no better they then went and spoke to someone else who told them to change the nathos auto m and so far that seems to have done the trick but only time will tell if that has really worked.

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