Hey everyone! Jim here - I’m new to all this so please bear with me!
My 95 year old aunt has a pair of Phonak Audeo M70-R.
She went in to the audiologist back in March(ish) and they did an adjustment on her because she couldn’t hear anything out of them. Now it’s too loud and she can’t wear them!
Two reasons why we don’t really want to go back to the same place - it’s about an hour away and they were trying to hard sell new HAs (these are about 4 years old).
I decided to try to adjust them myself. I downloaded and installed Target 8.1.2 and have a Noahlink Wireless unit, so I am able to connect to the HAs just fine and see all of the settings.
When I bring the software up, it even says that both hearing aids are set to above 132db .
I have a couple of questions:
1- How do I simply “turn down the volume” without going in and messing up all of the settings?
2- The green light does not work on one of the HAs (the HA works fine, it’s just the green light does not work at all). Is there a way to repair/replace the light/led in the HA?
Thank you for any input!
Jim
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So all you need to do is lower the overall volume until its comfortable, you need to save the original audiologist clinic settings before you go and make any adjustments. Because you can then reset them back to the original settings, you need to read the step by step guide before just jumping in and messing with the settings, don’t worry its all pretty easy but a basic understanding before making changes is a good way to get the required results.
When I bring the software up, it even says that both hearing aids are set to above 132db MPO
This is a standard warning when any high power is connected, you don’t make changes to the unless you know what you are doing, its ok to lower but only when necessary.
How do I simply “turn down the volume” without going in and messing up all of the settings?
Again this can be done by changing the overall volume, it can be done from the fine tuning page or easier for you from global settings, change it to 90%
I can’t help with the green led, but if it works as it should then i guess it doesn’t really matter much.
As abundantly explained here, to self-fit your hearing aids () you need a PC and (a) the right software and (b) some hardware that connects your HAs to the PC. Many software packages, and types of hardware work with multiple brands, however you before acquiring these, do your homework and ensure you got the right ones. In my case (Phonak Audeo P90Rs) the ONLY combi is Target software, plus the Noahlink Wireless. Below is my “Target for Dummies” experience with these.
The Target software is not a commercial product, so do not buy it on eBay or something. I paid ~140 USD for the Noahlink Wireless at Amazon.fr2 (for some reason, it came from the UK), which I consider a good investment. The manufacturer has announced a model II later in 2023, compatible with later model HAs…
To begin with, you create a “patient”, and a session. You select your “Fitting Device” (Noah W) and Connect. When first doing this, I strongly recommend you download the current HA’s fitting, so you can later revert to his, if you mess up.
Your HAs can help you create an using “AudiogramDirect”, however, this omits the lower freqs (which they cannot reproduce) and I was unhappy with the fitting outcome I got from this. So I recommend you just punch in the values you got from your audiologist or .
For the Global tuning I selected Adaptive Phonak Digital Contrast 2.0, and was quite happy with the result. I set Gain level to 110%, occlusion comp off and used Prescribed compression. “Soundrecover” is a feature that moves high-freq sound into lower freqs. You can set the freq range where it operates, but I did not like it all, so I disabled it.
The ”Global tuning” shows graphs of how your HAs have decided to amplify the sound, by freq. The pink line is the max gain—beyond this, you would be punished with feedback. Now, in the old days, HAs would simply amplify everything, so you (I) spent your days fiddling with the volume control. Today’s wonders, however, amplify sound depending on how loud it comes at you. Hence the three thick red lines, for sound coming at you at 80, 65 or 50 db. In the “Fine tuning” view, you can select the amplification by curve (G50-G80), or sections of the curve (divided into 3, 6, 10 or 20 segments; select and use the arrows). You can also unlink L and R. What really matters here are he G50 curves—they decide if you can hear the mumbling fellow in the back of the conference room, the clock, or birds outside. I would not touch the other curves. Also, you do not need excessive granularity here (the 20 setting). There also some useful general “tweaks” you can apply (like not hearing some letters). When you click File-Save settings, Target connects and re-programs your HAs.
I recommend you make notes on what you changed in each setting. Also, you can export all sessions for a given “patient” (you) to your harddisk, for backup.
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