One thing is puzzling me. When I started using many years ago, I immediately noticed that the road noise inside the car became much loader than before. Even cars I bought (Lexus) renowned for beeing quiet was noisy to me. People not using HA however said they didn’t notice it..
There is of course a quick fix to this, I simply switch to noise cancelling program on my HA when driving.
But why is this? People with normal hearing hear everything better than me, so why am I hearing this noise better than them??
Hearing loss happens partly in the brain, our natural noise reduction is not as good anymore, not just for speech, but also for cars and everything else.
I guess I am so old and old fashioned I love hearing road noise. I love driving with the windows down too. I also ride a motorcycle and I love the sound of the road. Not so much the loud exhaust of certain motorcycles. I ride a motorcycle with an extremely quiet exhaust. I wear the Phonak Spheres and they kill so much of the road noise it is like I am in an overly quiet room. Now my aids have custom ear molds. If you have domes then the domes let in a lot more sound into your ear bypassing the aids.
Yes, I admit I know of that explanation too. But I still find it difficult to accept . .
I guess it ‘s not only the brains possibly noise cancelling, it’s more that a normal hearing has the ability to filter out the speach through all the noise. When with friends at the pub, they also complain sometimes of the high background volume, the big difference is they still can hear what’s being said.
My wife just traded in a Mercedes for a Lexus. I can say the Lexus is many times quieter than the Mercedes. I could not have a phone conversation with her in the Mercedes but the Lexus is not a problem at all.
As far as road noise my opinion is it’s all about training the brain. Many of us had no problem talking in a noisy car when we had good hearing. The brain is that good. When we get hearing aids after losing hearing the brain has forgotten how to cancel unwanted noise. The noise filters on hearing aids just complicate the situation.
This opinion is based on being bilateral . I had to relearn how to hear. Localization and noise control is part of the brains function when hearing. I try not to use any noise cancelling features with CI allowing the brain to relearn hearing. So far this has worked out for me except wind noise. Still working on that one.
I grew up before car air conditioners and automatic transmissions. I drove a number of years before air conditioners were common place and affordable. I still drive with the windows open when ever the weather is nice.
Naturally we all have different preferences of what noise is and what’s tolerable. My neighbour has a Harley and to him I believe the insane load exhaust is music. Dont misunderstand me, when I go to veteran airshow, I expect to feel physically the wonderful blast of the WW2 engines. But in my car I hate wind and tire noise.
I try not to use any noise cancelling features with CI allowing the brain to relearn hearing. So far this has worked out for me except wind noise. Still working on that one.
That’s interesting, but I’m a bit sceptical if that would work for me with my Signia C&G.
I also have had the loud car noise problem. To address this, my audiologist set up a program in my aids called “riding in car.” It helped me to hear my husband over the car noise when I was riding in the car with him.
I also have had the loud car noise problem. To address this, my audiologist set up a program in my aids called “riding in car.”
Yes, as I said before that’s the easy solution. I dont have a dedicated program for car ride, but the generic “noise” program wotks fine. I also noticed that when I upgraded from Signia Silk NX to Silk Charge&Go IX, the standard program is much more clever to mask the unwanted sounds.
Another thing I did was to install sound deadeding material in my car, but that’s a story for another forum.
Didn’t we used to have a trick of typing a bunch of periods and the system would truncate them to 3 periods and that would satisfy the 20 character problem. Sigh.
Funny, I am one of those Harley guys or used to be. Sold it 6-8 months ago.
An example. When I got ’s the word understanding was the first obstacle. Lots of people think that’s all there is but there’s so much more. The first year or two with CI I did great but noises from the kitchen absolutely hurt to hear. I always tried to get my wife to be nice to dishes, pots and pans. I thought she was trying to break them. Slowly all these painful sounds got quieter and eventually disappeared, went away.
This to me is my brain relearning to hear. It’s real life hearing. It takes time that many can’t wait for. For some it happens faster than others. Everyone’s hearing is different.
I upgraded from Signia Silk NX to Silk Charge&Go IX, the standard program is much more clever to mask the unwanted sounds
Exactly as you said. I even drive with the same 7IX hearing aids, using the basic “Universal” mode a road noise in the car is tolerable, and I don’t have a luxury car.
The most likely cause of excessive noise audibility for us in the car is the hearing aids themselves.
PS: I used to have problems with short-term sound artifacts when listening to music through my car speakers, but after a few adjustments, it’s fine now.
It all depends on you and how well you explain your needs to your audiologist and how well your audiologist responds to your request and needs.
I grew up and drove for so much of my life with windows down and on open vehicles that to be in a closed up vehicle is way too quiet.
So far this has worked out for me except wind noise. Still working on that one.
I have the P70, and for wind, I stood out in it and created a program on the app to reduce the wind noise but keeping the hearing around me acceptable so I can hear cars coming behind me when walking, so far I manage to get rid of about 90% of the wind noise. As for car noise, my 2025 Forester is pretty quiet and hearing my wife talking is important, so a bit of road noise is no real issue, my Ha’s are set by default to quiet in noise program.
The brain thing I reckon. For me, these have at some point driven me a bit bats… Keyboards when I first got aids, audi dulled it for me for some months & tuned up later by degrees; nowadays I’m at 100% script with no issues. Running water. Pigeons drive me nuts; anyway, yeh brain & how you/we all have varying abilities to tune things out or in & especially when we gain the actual sound back it can be a challenge at least initially.
I’m at 100% script with no issues. Running water. Pigeons drive me nuts; anyway, yeh brain & how you/we all have varying abilities to tune things out or in & especially when we gain the actual sound back it can be a challenge at least initially.
You are doing great. Pending on how long you have had that hearing loss it can take more or less time for you to acclimate. Noise reduction technology has gotten to be pretty slick. It’s an easy way to tone down those unwanted sounds. In the process we have to be careful not to take away the sounds we need to understand things around us. It’s a fine line to challenge the brain or use technology.
Right now I am outside drinking coffee taking in nature and listening to birds. We live near a highway that can be noisy at times, like now people are driving into town for work. I have learned to hear the birds over the road noise very well. It took lots of practice and patience. Had I tuned the road noise out with technology I probably couldn’t hear the birds as well as I do.
I do not know how hearing with versus hearing aids would affect what I am talking about or if it even would.