Self-Programming with iPFG 2.6b

Hello Rick,

Thanks for the response.

I’m using an iCube.

I’ve been keeping the ‘Online Activation For This Session’ check-box cleared, but worry that I’m sometimes making changes I’m not aware of.

Using multiple client names sounds great, in principle, but when I close out one client and create a new one, I start back at square one.

I can see why, in a professional Audiology environment, it would make little sense to copy one client’s settings into a new client’s program. (Identical twins, perhaps?

-Doug

@dougf said:

Hello to the group.

I’m new here, but have been reading the posts for a while now. I’m in my late 60’s, with an engineering background. My hearing loss was caused by a combination of genetics and a 50-year love affair with racing cars and motorcycles.

Given the information posted on this site, and with the approval of my audiologist, I have jumped off the deep end of the pool and begun the process of learning to self-program my Smart-III’s.

My audiologist gave me a copy of my fitting data on a flash drive and I have locked it away as read-only files on two different computers. I’ve also managed to totally mess up and then restore my fitting data a couple of times.

As posted earlier by someone, “this is not for the faint of heart”.

An excellent suggestion made earlier on this site was to set up a new “client” for each new variation of settings, and to make only one change at a time.

This makes a great deal of sense.

Where I’m having trouble, is understanding the File save, (HI, database, etc.) and the export/import procedures.

Is it possible to duplicate a ‘client’, continue making modifications on top of the previous settings, and then save it to a new client name?

Is it possible to do a “compare” of database contents with the HI’s?

I’ve searched for documentation, watched all the on-line movies from Phonak, and googled for information, without much luck.

Last question: Can anyone recommend a good book along the lines of “Audiology for Dummies”?

Thanks for any advice people might be able to pass on.

-Doug

These programs will typically have a way to load a previous session. When you do a read of the aid, the program will inform you that the aid is programed differently than what is should be and prompt you to choose between the setting in the aid or the currently loaded session. Choose the currently loaded session and which will give you the settings for an earlier program.

Creating a new user name would work too. This might be an easier way to do this and since you’re going to be the only guy in the database, it would be the way I’d do it. Good luck!

Hi Doug,

1. Your audi has behaved unethically. By your own admission you are untrained in any/all aspects of using the programming software and audiology.

2. I assume you are using a pirate copy of the fitting software.

3. You have started self-programming - and then you ask: Can anyone recommend a good book along the lines of “Audiology for Dummies”?

My main question is: Why?

That said, good luck with your new project!

if i want to increase the t-coil volume, should i increase the gain for G60 alone or increase the overall gain for all sound level input (G40, G60 & G80)

Might as well do ALL, but only between 750Hz and 3000Hz.

Keep gain low outside this ‘window’.

(Dragging just G60 up will drag G40 and G80 along in a messy way too.)

Iam still searching for the target software, is there someone who has this software?

I’m looking to get a pirated copy of the Target software anyone ripped one off lately… seriously?

seems the englishmen on these boards have a short fuse…

I certainly do with regard to IPR (Intellectual Property Rights).

Having spent most of my life creating software - and having two mobile phone technology patents - it annoys me that so many people feel that it’s perfectly fine to steal the efforts of others.

I post on a variety of European and US technology forums and I do find that most - but not all - Americans are MUCH more supportive of Copyright etc than Europeans.

Americans don’t eat if they don’t work so they respect the value of creative output - whilst many Europeans can get free houses, free money for ever whilst not working. This encourages an ‘entitlement mentality’ which leads to music, software etc as being regarded as ‘free’.

@EnglishDispenser said:

Americans don’t eat if they don’t work so they respect the value of creative output - whilst many Europeans can get free houses, free money for ever whilst not working. This encourages an ‘entitlement mentality’ which leads to music, software etc as being regarded as ‘free’.

Really? Hmm, I like Europe. Maybe there is a spot for me? With a free house and money?

I have enjoyed all my trips to London but maybe Lucerne would work out better. You know, better guns and I do like to go to the range.

I hear what you are saying about people wanting something for nothing, and I’m a software developer myself, but some areas of hearing aid software distribution are not cut and dried.

If you want hearing aid software that is never distributed free, in order to use it to go into business, it is clearly wrong to “procure” that software and not pay for it.

However, some hearing aid software is distributed by the manufacturers with no mention of software keys needed. If an end user can download the software for free from the manufacturer and its only use is to adjust the hearing aids that person has already bought, it may not be unethical. In that case it is just a tool to let them better use the product they have already bought at a high price.

But again, if it is industry software that is not directly related to a manufacturer, and is a commercial product on its own, it is unethical to get a copy without paying for it.

Don.

Phonak iPFG software is free from Phonak, and as I have to program my own-is a blessing. To connect it to the HA is what costs the money, and you certainly don’t do it for fun!

Apparently free house and money is availably to all comers. The exception is UK residents, who lose their home through no fault of their own do not qualify….

I have a pair of Piconet2, P2AZ aids that I need to increase the volume on - can anyone tell me where/who can do this - the local hearing aid places won’t do it since I did not buy from them - moved far away from purchase site. Can I buy the hardware/software to do this - or send them to someone to do it for me?

Thanks for any help, Dave

1. iPFG doesn’t work with NHS aids.

2. Even if did work, you need a valid licence to use it. Just because you can’t find the licence, doesn’t mean there isn’t one.

3. NHS aids aren’t your property - so reprogramming them is probably ‘Criminal Damage’ or something!

I have a pair of Piconet2, P2AZ aids that I need to increase the volume on - can anyone tell me where/who can do this - the local hearing aid places won’t do it since I did not buy from them - moved far away from purchase site. Can I buy the hardware/software to do this - or send them to someone to do it for me?

Thanks for any help, Dave

This is a VERY old analogue aid with a digitally programmed control table … not a real digital.

You would need the very old PFG software … I’m not even sure if I could find my copy even if I had too!

It also seems to use some sort of old style cable … could be tricky to find!

No wonder you need to increase the volume - your hearing has probably moved on over the years!

Time for a full retest & re-evaluation … and maybe an aid upgrade … methinks.

DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW THE PROGRAMS LINK WORKS IN iPFG 2.6C , DOES IT DISABLE AUTOMATIC PROGRAM OF THE HEARING AID IF YOU DISABLE IT?