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@JimD said:

I still don’t know what the iN means.

The iN has the license so once you get the license installed in your Marvels, you can buy a second transmitter from eBay.

In reply to @JimD

Well yes you do pay for the license/RogerDirect by paying for the iN device.

You can either buy 2 x Roger X and a normal Roger Select or just buy the Roger Select iN device.

Today i have picked up the package with 2 x-receiver one Normal Roger select and one Programming device.
For me it have the adventage that i can also use the X-Receivers together with my compilot II and not only the Marvels.
BTW i have not received the Marvels yet they hopefully will arrive next week.
So i use till i get them my Ventures with the compilote and roger select.
I think it is more versatile this way.Thats why i have spend more for this package than i would have to for the iN Type. Wich is not even available here.
Actually the cheapest Roger select iN i found in Germany for less than 1000 Euros.
It is strange that in UK they ask much more the cheapest i seen there was 1350 British Pound

Don’t think you’re understanding it. You need to get the iN devices or 2 x Roger Xs to install (not wear) on to your Marvels. Then the Roger will start to work.

In the picture it shows the installer.

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In reply to @Ulf

@Ulf said:

For me it have the adventage that i can also use the X-Receivers together with my compilot II and not only the Marvels.

I’ve been told the Roger Xs will be useless once installed in to your Marvels but that might be wrong.

Edited

Of course they will get useless when you transfer it in to Marvel.
But you can also transfer it back in to the X-Receiver from the Marvels.
That mean that for what reason ever i change MY to one other brand or send it in for repair i can transfer the License forward and also back.
This way i am not limited to Marvel only. The iN series they limit you to Marvel only

Thank to all of you for the help. so once once you pay for a license you can use all of the roger devices that you want ?

In reply to @Ulf

do you need license for just the marvel or a new license for each new roger device ? i wonder if they cut a break for only using 1 hearing aid (deaf in left ear )

You would need to still get the iN device or 1 x Roger X and the installer.

Once you have the receiver license on the Marvels you can connect any Roger device to the Marvels. Exeption are the Touch mic which need 02 Receivers i dont know if on the marvels can coexist 03 license and 02 license at the same time.

@Ulf said:

i dont know if on the marvels can coexist 03 license and 02 license at the same time.

The iN devices at the moment are 03 receivers according to a person who works at Phonak HQ. She’s a member of a Facebook group I admin and that’s what she said.

RogerDirect and Roger installation

Q: What is RogerDirect?

A: RogerDirect is a feature of the Phonak Marvel hearing aid. RogerDirect is an industry-first from Phonak that allows Roger microphones to stream directly to the hearing aids. After a simple installation of the Roger receiver, clients benefit from the proven performance of Roger, in noise and over distance, without attaching an external receiver.

Q: What is Roger installation?

A: Roger installation is the process to install the Roger receiver into any Marvel hearing aid.

Q: How can a Roger receiver be installed into a Marvel hearing aid?

A: Installation of a Roger receiver into a Marvel hearing aid can be done using either:

  • the Roger X and the Roger Installer or
  • one of the Roger iN microphones

The Roger X must has serial number 1744xxxx or greater to be compatible and installed into Marvel hearing aid

Q: What is Roger™ technology?

A: Roger technology provides an improved speech understanding in noise and over distance. Voice is captured with a high signal-to-noise ratio by Roger microphones and rendered in the hearing aid with a gain that is dynamically adapted to the surrounding noise

Q: Does RogerDirect in Phonak Marvel hearing aid have a serial number?

A: No.

RogerDirect is a Marvel hearing aid feature. Serial number are available only on hardware (e.g. Roger X), which are needed to install Roger receiver in Phonak Marvel hearing aids.

RogerDirect and Roger installation via Roger X

Q: What is Roger X?

A: Roger X is a universal Roger receiver that can be attached to any hearing aid, cochlear implant speech processor or (bone anchored hearing aid) featuring a Direct Audio Input (DAI) or 3-Pin Euro plug. Roger X can also be used to wirelessly install a Roger receiver into a Marvel hearing aid via the Roger Installer.

Q: How do I know if a Roger X can directly install Roger receiver inside a Phonak Marvel hearing aid?

A: Any Roger X with a serial number starting with the first four digits 1744 or higher can be used to install Roger receiver into Phonak Marvel hearing aid.

As a visual indicator Roger X color is champagne.

Q: Who can install Roger in Phonak Marvel hearing aids?

A: (Hearing Care Professional) , School Audiologist, School Personnel

Q: Can an installed Roger receiver in Phonak Marvel hearing aid be uninstalled and restore into an empty Roger X?

A: Yes.

Q: Can a Roger X with Roger receiver be used with another hearing instrument via DAI (digital Audio Interface)?

A: Yes.

Q: What is an empty Roger X?

A: An empty Roger X means Roger receiver has been installed into a Phonak Marvel hearing aid and no longer contains Roger inside.

Q: Can I use an empty Roger X via an audio shoe or a 3-pin Euro plug (DAI)?

A: No.

An empty Roger X cannot receive a Roger signal.

Q: How to know if a Roger X is empty or full?

A: The HCP (Hearing Care Professional) , School Audiologist, School Personnel will use the Roger Installer.

a) Full: The indicator light on the top of the Roger Installer will have GREEN LIGHT indicating Roger receiver is inside the Roger X

b) Empty: The indicator light on the top of the Roger Installer will have not light.

RogerDirect and Roger installation via Roger X

Q: Can one Roger X be used to install Roger in more than one Marvel hearing aids at a time?

A: No.

Once installed in one Phonak Marvel hearing aid, the Roger X is empty.

Q: The Phonak Marvel hearing aid with Roger installed via Roger Installer is lost or damaged. What should I do?

A: Local Phonak Loss and Damage for Phonak devices is different from countries to countries.Please refer to Phonak Loss and Damage section in Phonak Price & Policy for terms , cost and coverage details.

Generally speaking the empty Roger X receiver and broken hearing aid will be returned with the proper forms to Phonak. A new or repared Marvel hearing aid will be returned along with a new Roger X receiver under the Phonak Loss and Damage.

Q: Can I use the Phonak Remote App to check if Roger is installed in my Marvel hearing aids?

A: Yes.

Make sure the app is connected to the Marvel hearing aids.

  1. Select ‘MyPrograms’ in the list.

  2. Select ‘MyRoger’ in the list

  3. Roger installation status for left and right Marvel hearing aids will be displayed.

Q: I have a trial with Phonak Marvel hearing aids, can Roger receiver be installed into the trial device?

A: Yes.

Q: what will happen if The HCP (Hearing Care Professional) , School Audiologist, School Personnel try y to install Roger receiver in Marvel hearing aid when Roger receiver has already been installed?

A: Red LED on Roger Installer will be displayed.

RogerDirect and Roger installation via Roger iN microphone

Q: What are Roger iN microphones?

A: Roger iN microphones are dedicated Roger microphones that have the capability to install two Roger receivers into a pair of Marvel hearing aids.

Q: Can Roger iN microphone install two Roger receivers in two Marvel hearing aids?

A: Yes.

Q: Is it possible to listen to an audio device and the microphone in parallel?Q: How I know if it is a Roger microphone iN?

A: If ‘IN’ extension is written at the end of the product name, it is a Roger microphone iN. For example Roger Select iN.

Q: Can Roger receiver installed in Marvel hearing aids be uninstalled into a Roger iN microphone?

A: Yes.

Roger iN microphone must have at least one empty slot.

Q: How does the HCP know if the Roger iN microphone has an empty slot?

A: The HCP will use a Phonak tool to check the indicator light status: one RED indicator means at least 1 empty slot.

Q: Which option of Roger receiver will be installed when using Roger iN microphone?

A: Roger receiver (03) option will be installed by Roger iN microphone.

Q: Is it possible to install both, Roger receiver (02) and (03) options into the same Phonak Marvel hearing aids?

A: Yes.

Q: Can a Roger receiver 02 option be uninstalled into an empty Roger iN microphone?

A: No.

Roger receiver 02 option functionality can only be installed into a Roger X 02 option.

Q: Can a Roger receiver (03) option be uninstalled into an empty Roger X 02 option?

A: No.

Roger receiver 03 option functionality can only be installed into a Roger X 03 option.

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