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Phonak Roger - Adaptive Gain vs Easy Gain

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I know it, it’s Roger Direct feature, which requires Roger Installer and proper serial number in RogerX. I mean other differences, such as e.g. signal processing, effectiveness in noise, etc.

In reply to @Bimodal_user

Hi a.kowal.pr

I’m no expert on the side, so I cannot comment on any details on the difference in signal processing, but what you get from using a Phonak HA with Roger Direct is improved reception range of the Roger signal, and an additional adaptive gain mode that’s called Dual adaptive. Instead of only increasing the gain of the Roger signal by up to 20dB as in the standard mode, it also decreases the hearing aid mic gain. Up to +10dB on Roger and -10dB on the mic. This may give you some more comfort in noise under certain conditions.

You also get an improved operating time as Roger Direct consumes less current than Roger X.

In reply to @Bimodal_user

We have a member who has installed Roger direct into his Costco KS9 aids and works great. It was a thing.
No guarantee but I would think the Roger Direct could also be installed into the Brio 4 aids. Worth checking into.

Looking to see if any assistive device experts have found a method to help with Sports broadcasts. The problem as I see it is that for all stadium games the broadcasters blend together crowd noise from the stadium with the announcer’s voices. The result for we folk, whether using a or a , is a speech in noise problem. Word recognition then suffers a lot. I use Roger equipment which works great for many things but not so for this problem. Any way to separate the speech from the crowd noise?

I’ve never really been able to tell if adaptive gain has been working on my Roger.

Yesterday I turned everything to 0 like NoiseBlock and WindBlock and now I can tell that my Roger is working so much better.

It’s working much better in very noisy places.

Even having my NoiseBlock at number 4 which is weak, stopped my Roger from working as well.

Where do you you have the mic set? Is that at 0 , or do you adjust it lower?
I turned the mic off completely to hear better in noise (I generally have everyone wearing Mics) but I’m wondering if I could get it to work a little better by adding a bit my Mic. Just wondering where to start. On target it goes to -30db

Hi!

I may be too late in seeking a solution.

Ive got a new Hearing Aid (Danalogic Ambio6) . Also, bought A multi Mic.

Ive got two Roger Pens and Reciever 03 from Access to Work that was given in 2014.Today I trialled them out along with Multi Mic. They all connected no problem but felt there were too muddled and not very clear in the office. Any ideas?

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