Phonak introduces Naída Paradise

Difference between Naida M SP and Naida P UP. Doesn’t seem that much difference in size which I guess is good.

It’s definitely not easy to teach a HA to stand on their hind legs!

Would love to see how my Naida V90 SP compares.

So there are four additional programs with theew Paradise Naida that can be selected by user. Anyone have suggestions on which programs are the best to choose? It seems there’s a lot of redundancy with background noise in various programs. There is speech in loud noise, speech in voice, comfort in noise, calm situation, speech in 360, speech in noise, calm situation, etc.

So can anyone rank programs as far as performance? Also is a t-coil feature standard with aid and not one of the additional programs? I always struggled with background noise so I’ll probably pick two or three programs that (attempt) to deal with that but I don’t want duplication if “speech in loud noise” is the same thing as “speech in noise”. So confusing Hopefully there are some Phonak Paradise users here who can separate the good programs from the not so good programs.

Also - what is “custom program” which pops up as an additional program? Does this feature allow someone to adjust setting on there phone with Phonak app?

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@ron137 said:

duplication if “speech in loud noise” is the same thing as “speech in noise”.

No they are not. I’m not exactly sure of the difference but Speech in Loud Noise only works if you use QuickSync and Speech in Noise works without QuickSync.

I hate Speech in Loud Noise myself.

I paid £2395 for the Phonak Paradise 90’s on offer from spec savers.

Hi Terry,

Ebay is a good source. You should be able to get a CD for around £30 - £40. The ones I’ve seen recently ship from the U.S.A. But you will need the Noahlink Wireless programmer as well - this will cost £100 - £150.

Hi glucas,

Ive had a look around eBay and people seem to be selling a link so I’m not to sure I’d trust that! I’ve been reading around and many say the Noahlink is not needed so I’m a little confused!.

How did you get your audiogram to show on your profile? I’ve just seem yours and its very much like mine.

I got it many thanks I’ve just filled it out

Thanks for the info on the Target Software and Noahlink I’ll go and check it out

Thank you TerryUK, twas around that price, I paid £2460 to be exact, for the Phonak Paradise Naida 90’s UP BTE 675 from Boots Hearing Care, I got them fitted today and so far so good, they have a fair bit more ooomph than the Phonak Paradise 90’s UP RIC 13, and are much more suited to my loss. Boots kindly gave me the same 15% discount I had for the Paradise 90’s, which I returned (prior to the end of the 60 days trial) to swop them out for the Naida P they appear to be much clearer and louder, and at the fitting session I was able to hold a fairly good conversation with my audiologist whom was masked up, which is for me near impossible with my Marvels 90’s UP RIC’s, as lip reading is usually a fundamental for me, it was much more clearer than the Paradise P’s, okay it was in a sound proof booth and in ideal acoustic listening conditions, the Audi even stood behind me to ascertain and I could still follow her and apart from the odd word, all was good Such is my loss, I am always going to miss the odd word and I can live with that, when I was fitted (a few weeks ago) with the Paradise 90’s UP 13’s, I reiterate, I could follow most of the conversation with my masked Audi, but this was much clearer and ultimately louder with the Naida P and this time I got nearly all of the conversation… Anybody in the UK whom might be planning Naida Paradise UP BTE 675 from Boots Hearing Care in the near future, might want to think about it sooner rather than later, as I am unsure how long they might be discounting 15% off these aids? Although Specsavers appear to be giving the same if not slightly less discount Cheers Kev.

How would you rate the size of them? Are they smaller and lighter as claimed? I have always worn SP aids but the modern technology doesn’t seem to have the oomph I have gotten in the past. The UP aids give me better speech comprehension, but the size gives me pause.

You are welcome Smile44, yeah the Naida P BTE Power Aid, would not be of any use to me, nor would they be anywhere near loud enough, I wear glasses, and this would most likely be constantly irritated by the double tap feature in the motion sensor… I also have a strong aversion to rechargeable aids after a couple of bad experiences with Marvel rechargeable’s… Good luck in your choice, cheers Kev

I’m quite impressed with the new Naida P UP as it doesn’t actually look bigger then the Naida V SP!

@Zebras said:

No they are not. I’m not exactly sure of the difference but Speech in Loud Noise only works if you use QuickSync and Speech in Noise works without QuickSync.

What do you mean by quicksync, I can’t remember if I ever saw that term anywhere?

@ron137
Speech in loud noise needs two aids, and utilises stereozoom.
If you have just one aid, it’s IMO useless. As you can’t get the stereozoom feature.

However, it really is great with 2 aids, to the point that that was one of my reasons for getting 2 aids.
Amount of noise reduction you can get with it is really superior to ordinary version.

Speech in noise has option to change mic directionality. In loud noise has only stereozoom. That means use all 4 mics and focus on the thing in front of you while remove all noise you can from all around you.

Which programs to choose, I’d go with the same recommendation - those you need. In other words, work with your autosense, and your fitter. And if the daily issues/needs you have cannot be covered with autosense and tweaking there, then you’ll both know it’s time for a new program.

Custom programs are only in the phone app, and currently main purpose is to help yourself in some situations between two visits to your fitter, and sharing the findings and them using this info to tweak main programs more. After every fitting those custom programs are vanished.

@glucas said:

Ebay is a good source. You should be able to get a CD for around £30 - £40

Or you go to DIY subforum here and get it for free. Sw doesn’t cost a thing anyway. It’s just that it isn’t publicly available.

Yeah Zebras, Tis slimmer and noticeably lighter and feels fairly comfortable even with glasses on! As I become more accustomed to these Naida’s, I am rapidly warming to them although as yet I haven’t been in many truly challenging situations, I am probably subconsciously assessing them all the time, for instance last night I could hear the clock ticking away from approximately 10 feet away, but what was kind of surreal was listening to my wife’s TV program in the next room and basically following it, I was obviously missing the odd word, but I was getting the gist of it One thing I am very impressed with is these Starkey moulds, they really hug your ears, and feel so comfortable, no feedback issues unless I cup my actual aids with my hands. Cheers Kev.