Oticon Neural Noise Suppression

Yeah, it’s really no big deal about the thread being closed. This is a more appropriate place for that discussion anyway. And if it had been made known right up front that Chuck would have liked to see the discussion moved somewhere else, I’m sure everyone would have gladly obliged.

Although it admittedly took on the tone of becoming Chuck’s documentation of his personal experience with the More throughout that thread, the title of that thread really didn’t clearly make it seem to be exclusive as such. So I can see someone going through the thread like @JeremyDC thinking that it’d be OK to throw in More 1 related questions when looking for answers, and not have it be considered off-topic anyway.

Welcome to the internet. Posters shouldn’t realistically have any expectation of control over what’s posted in a thread once it’s started. Thread drift is a fact of life, just like in person conversations can be very fluid.

Yes, I thought it was where I should post since it was a topic about the Oticon More aids. Oh well, I guess next time I will start a new topic or ask if it is ok. That is probably best.

I’m hoping that, somewhere in the near future, we can get the momentum back on some of the technical stuff. I found out unequivocally from reading around some of the things posted, why my poor old Unitron North Moxi Fit 800 never worked for me. They were designed specifically to exclude everything except human speech and that comes straight from the manufacturer.

This was a question that’s being nagging at me for 7 years. So - it wasn’t all poor fitting that was at the root of my dissatisfaction - but it doesn’t exculpate the audiologist because I specifically told her that I didn’t want HAs that operated that way.

So, discussion of the technical aspects of More1s has brought me a better understanding of all HAs, and has reinforced in my mind that Oticon has a different approach. I’m not saying better - just different (in a way that I prefer, but that you may not).

Yes, of course it does, just as Mores have a beam- forming option. But that’s not the core design philosophy.

It’s only “marketing speak”, but it describes my experience wearing Unitron North Moxi Fit 800, which almost always selected a noisy environment (unbeknownst to me for literally years, because my audiologist never explained it to me!), which prevented me from hearing the non-speech sounds around me that I need to hear.

Yeah, OK. I understand. The Oticon HAs using the open paradigm gives you both an open experience AND speech clarity at the same time. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive like with the Unitron.

Newer HAs can do autosense to hunt for environmental changes and automatically switch back and forth between programs for you, but that’s still not as smooth as just being able to stay in your main program 90% of the times.

Let’s not forget that the Unitron North Moxi Fit 800 that I’m talking about is 7-year-old technology, and that Unitron is a sister company to Phonak. As is the case with, let’s say, Oticon, Brenafon, and Phillips (who share feedback suppression technology amongst themselves) they probably share a lot of the same “autosense” technology, beneath the surface.

I’m bringing up the shared aspect of Unitron bPhonak because I believe that my Moxi Fits were giving me the same grief that members are discussing in these topics:

Phonak app update / Autosense

Phonak autosense behaviour

At any rate, the overall behaviour and performance of these hearing aids made them a poor match for treating my hearing loss. This poor match was further exacerbated by a poor fit. These devices were just not an effective solution for me, although others who use the same aids might be of a different opinion.

One of the aspects of my Genuine Oticon®️ Brand More1 Hearing Instruments that suits me best is that the default program (based on Oticon’s proprietary VAC+ fitting rationale) handles 90% of the situations I encounter just using its native settings, which my audiologist and I tweak a little bit more at each appointment,similar to what Chuck @cvkemp does.

The other 10% of my situational needs are handled by my Speech in Noise program, which I’ve recently commented on. (The jury is still out on the MyMusic program. I’m using my main default program for my music, for the time being. The sound quality is quite acceptable, and - to my ears, at least - has greater fidelity to the source than MyMusic, which is the “Blue Pill”.)