DIY School - (v2.0)

@Wookie said:

my Signia Pure 312 7X so I can copy it to a set of 13X C&G

Yes it’s possible to export and then import your settings, however not everything gets transferred, but can still be a good baseline to work from, InSituGram is another way if you prefer to start from scratch with DIY, Connexx software is easy to use and very user friendly.

Hello all, can someone please provide me with the Oticon Genie 2 software download?
That would be nice.

Sure, but don’t forget you’ll need the correct programming device for your DIY projects.

I would be very happy if someone could share phonak target fitting sw with me. Thanks!!!

Good catch!! Compass GPS seems to be a little different.

Sorry, I was trying to describe all fitting software. But I don’t have all brands of hearing aids.

But no worries. Saving to both (database and hearing aids) should always be your default method anyway. Why? Because if you don’t save to both, then you will get a Date-Time mismatch next time you connect your hearing aids.

I will make note of this Widex Compass difference in DIY School. Thanks.

Yeah so what happens is any changes are made on the fly, they are saved all the time, another manufacturer also does it, but you can’t disable or change the way compass works.

@tenkan
Thanks for your information.

Well don’t forget you’ll need the Noahlink wireless programming device as well.
Good choice of HAs by the way.

Well, maybe it’s a good choice and maybe he/she needs Noahlink Wireless.

But Widex Compass GPS 4.4 is the latest Widex fitting software and I don’t see any updates to 4.4, and I don’t see any “Sheer” Moment 440 models. So, just what the heck are “Moment 440 Sheer” models?

You can try connecting to them and see if it works. There are conditions that must be satisfied before connecting such as off/on cycling the HAs to prep them for connecting, installing the fitting software first before plugging-in Noahlink Wireless so that the Noahlink Wireless driver is installed properly.

You will be the first to program a “Sheer” Moment 440 if it works.

Yeah I thought they were the latest version of Moment, I did see them on the Widex us website, well we’ll know if they can be programmed soon enough.https://www.widex.com/en-us/hearing-aids/moment-sheer/9

They show up in the Compass software as Moment 440. From what I can tell, they redesigned the microphones vs. the last generation Moment 440. There may be other internal changes that I cannot see.

**Professional musician/audio engineer dives into the hearing aid world with trials and DIY programming of HAs…

Are any of you interested in my journey with HAs? If I can help anyone with what I’ve learned and am learning, I’d be happy to post details.

Thanks!
Chris

@Heater said:

From what I can tell, they redesigned the microphones

That’s beginning to make sense because AFAIK there are no Compass GPS changes.
btw> Here’s another resource for Music settings → https://musicandhearingaids.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2018/10/Starting-out-with-a-music-program-Version-1.1-24-Sept-2018.pdf12

@ramonqly said:

I am using Compass GPS 4.3 with Noahlink, with Widex Moment 220 hearing aids.
But if you look at the accompanying image, it suggests that it always saves the configuration in hearing aids.
Only when there are changes or always?
I have searched in the program to disable it but there is nothing where I can do it.
Does anyone know why??

Oticon Genie 2 fitting software applies any session changes to the hearing aids while you are wearing them. I believe that all the manufacturers do this!

But then, (at the END FITTING step) Oticon Genie 2 allows you to choose whether you want to save those changes (in the hearing aids. in the databasae, or both).

This got me thinking about what happens during a power outage. So I tested it by killing my computer. The session changes that were in your hearing aids during the fitting session became permanent during the power failure and then you get the settings mismatch warning next time you connect again.

Sorry, the power failure test above was just an aside, (and this may seem like a dumb question) but I don’t have Widex hearing aids for testing. I can get similar results to the @ramonqly Widex Compass results using Oticon Genie 2. But only when I begin a session by starting that session using the Database settings over the hearing aid settings. That is, when the two versions of the settings are mismatched.

So my question is, Does Widex Compass always give you no choice about saving the session changes into your hearing aids? In other words does each fitting session change the hearing aid settings permanently without giving you any choice in the matter?

Here’s my END FITTING similar results when I started a session from the database settings;