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Has anyone upgraded from Paradise to Lumity recently and care to share their opinion? I am looking at making the switch but I am not sure it will be worth it. I’ve read some reviews but nothing from a “personal” point of view.
Thanks!

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Totally DOES help. thanks a lot :slight_smile: i am 2 years into paradise so I have some expectations :smiley:

@wyattwilliam891 said: (unavailable)

I really don’t remember much about the paradise as I only had them maybe 3 weeks

Probably can’t read much into that then.

@sickbay said:

I mean I didn’t see any review on this forum :slight_smile:

Did you use the search button to help you find something, we were just discussing this very topic.

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Yes of course(including what specifications are offered) this is why I stated my reasons for holding off getting the lumity, if you already have the paradise wait until the next platform, which will most likely offer more meaningful upgrades, but who knows…maybe, we’ll just have to wait and see, we can usually get a heads up on what their working on through different channels, AI is something Phonak will be playing “catch up” on. Check out another review here.
Phonak Audeo new P50 vs old Q90 - has the tech really not improved that much?
I wish I could try the Lumity but they’re not available where I live but I’ll try and find out when it will arrive. I think you’re right; I don’t earn as much as I did when I bought the Q90s, but if I can make them last 8 years then the cost over time equation is not too bad.

Yes, been through those :slight_smile:
The problem is that, as you said, the audi matters a lot. Nowadays I buy my aids online because they’re literally 1/2 price or even more than my local thing. So my fittings are over the remote options…while I have no reason to distrust that this can work just as well, I do have some distrust… :slight_smile: But I’ll push for a really good fit with lumity to see if it’s worth the upgrade!

Thanks! I’ll report back!

I don’t see anything about NAIDA Luminity and L on Phonak’s website. Why are the ones such as us with severe/profound losses always left out of product launches and have to wait? Doesn’t seem fair there.

Not to mention being left out of the groundbreaking legislation of hearing aids. But, that’s another matter.

Yes I agree with this, I think it’s because severe to profound is not a big seller, as in the market is very small compared to mild to moderate losses, as for being cut out for this, it’s actually a good thing, for to many reasons I won’t go into.

@sickbay said:

But I’ll push for a really good fit with lumity to see if it’s worth the upgrade!

Thanks! I’ll report back!

Yes do that, we definitely need more reviews on the Lumity models, I look forward to “hearing” back on this.

In reply to @codergeek2015

@codergeek2015 devices for severe/profound losses will never be available simply because it’s not safe. It’s unethical to provide any device capable of generating the amount of gain required for such large losses directly to the end user. They would pose a risk of noise induced damage if they’re not fitted safely by a professional.

I wear Paradise now and my audi suggested I try Naida too which I think it’s a bit too much for my hearing loss. Would there be any risk for me to try it if it’s set correctly for my do you think? OR is Lumity a better way to go. My audi is of opinion that Lumity won’t be much of an upgrade for my hearing loss but I’d still want to try…any opinion?

You should try both and compare. I have a similar hearing loss to you and Lumity has been a huge improvement for me.

Try both. Everyone is different. Just make sure they do a test and adjust accordingly.

Jordan

I’ve been reading your review with Lumity and I’m glad you feel this way! They just say that compared to Paradise I won’t see much difference :slight_smile: but we’ll see. thanks a lot!

No one can say if you will find a difference but you. Everyone hears differently. The aid that works for you might not work for them. Much of the lore is subjective, not objectively based.

WH

In reply to @JordanK

@JordanK I’m a neighbour. Mississauga. I have a question—during your hearing tests does the audiologist read the trial words, or use a recording? I’ve just learned this is a preferred method.

I’m frustrated that it has taken so long to set up my Phonak Paradise P90’s, but I’m extremely grateful to have them.

DaveL

@DaveL: When my audiologist does a hearing test, he uses a recording for the word recognition part of the test. He has indicated to me that it’s important to use the same recording every single time because that’s the best way to determine if your word recognition scoring has changed. He even indicated that when you go to another audiologist and they use a different method, the scoring will come out different. It’s all about consistency from test to test.

Jordan

I swapped over from Paradise 90 Life to Lumity 90 Life hearing aids earlier today.

The form factor and case seem identical apart from the charging light is round and not rectangular and the button rocker has a slightly more raised profile which makes operation easier.

It’s far too early for any formal feedback but the bass response whilst listening to music via Bluetooth seems much better. I’m using the same receivers and domes but bass sounds much better.

It might be me or some other factor that I haven’t accounted for but it was such a big and obvious difference that I thought that it was worth mentioning.

Anyone else experienced this?

@BeLo said:

Anyone else experienced this?

As I have mentioned earlier, I’m wearing Lumity L90-RT’s. Bass is phenomenal. Music in general sounds fantastic. The main thing you need to keep an eye out for is how fast the hearing aids react to speech and sounds from different directions. I don’t know what these hearing aids are doing but they seem to react and focus on speech coming from any direction. They also deal with noise really well. Curious to hear your ongoing impressions. Good scenarios are listening to someone who is talking to you from the side (in the car or going for a walk). Voices from behind, etc.

As an example, I went to a Local City Council meeting this week. This was the first time in a while that I could clearly hear all the politicians talking over the loudspeaker system in the Council Chamber. Same goes for attending a religious service, etc. Try different scenarios and let us know what you think.

Jordan

Thanks Jordan. I’ll definitely give more feedback once I’ve been wearing them for a bit.
I do have quite an odd loss and don’t have some common issues that others have so my thoughts on them might not be that helpful for others. For example I can barely tell the difference between Marvel 90s and Paradise 90s!

One thing that I have noticed though is that Bluetooth pairing seems a little weird compared with the Paradise .
With my Paradise aids I never have any trouble pairing with other Bluetooth devices and regularly did/do so. The Lumity aids seemed to need a few tries before they paired to either my PC or phone.

On Android the LE connections now show up named and not just as MAC addresses, this along with the improved bass and strange connection behaviour leads me to believe that the Bluetooth in these has been overhauled since Paradise.
I’m not 100% sure but the BT video/audio sync seems to be improved by a frame or two as well.

Edited

What follows are a few anecdotal (but non-technical) observations based on wearing new Phonak Lumity (L90s) for the last week or so. Over the last four years I have been using both Phonak Marvels (M90s) and Phonak Paradise (P90s) aids with several issues, and all of these issues have disappeared since starting to use the Lumity aids … so I am thrilled!

In particular:

The daily battery life seems to be improved. I found that when using my previous rechargeable aids, the battery would die after about 12 hours of use. Admittedly, I stream either music or TV most of the day, so I was not really surprised. At about the 12 hour mark, I would just switch over to another pair of aids. With my Lumity aids, I have been able to go from 9 in the morning until midnight, and still have battery to spare!

When taking my daily walks with my previous aids and an iPhone, I would have Bluetooth music dropouts in front of certain neighbor’s homes, but with the Lumity aids this no longer happens. So far I have not had any music dropouts at all. Nice!

When watching TV using the TV Connector and previous aids, the aids would regularly drop into the AutoSense program, disconnecting the TV audio. I suspect that my Apple Watch and some sort of Bluetooth interference was to blame, but never resolved the issue. This interference has disappeared while using the Lumity aids and the same TV connector. Very nice!

Let me know if you are aware of any firmware/hardware improvements on the Lumity aids over previous models that may have solved my issues. Better Bluetooth receiver? Newer version of Bluetooth? Improved battery? New operating system?

What we really want to hear about is the cocktail party problem. Loud restaurant, noisy lobby, etc. Public gatherings in halls with loud echo. Can you hear ppl better?

WH

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